Re: 21 days and no pass ..

I would disagree that a competent engineer would ace it.
Im certain quite a few competent engineers have failed v4.
That said, there does seem to be some..."anger" (for lack of a better word)
out there towards v4.
I myself am studying towards it, but am more concerned over my own
preparation than whether people have passed yet or not.
It just needs more work, more determination, more blood sweat and tears. But
it can be done.
No point waiting until someone actually does pass it and then say..yes i CAN
do it! :)

I imagine Thameem lashed out because for those who have not passed, it seems
like those who HAVE find it very easy to talk.
As more and more people are geared towards knowing all the technologies and
being prepared for version 4 and NOT version 3, than we should see some
trickling through of passers...

2009/11/17 Marc La Porte <marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com>

> Your welcome, bro...
>
> I agree, a competent engineer is able to ace it... Having said that,
> it won't be easier with v4, but then again it was never easy nor
> should it be. I sincerely hope that Cisco will soon update all the
> other tracks to the "v4 standard" to make it just as "easy" to pass
> the CCIE for any track.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 13:20, Shaughn Smith <shaughn.s_at_cvnnet.co.za>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Marc
> >
> > I knew a reply like that was going to come up sooner or later. Water off
> > a ducks back.
> >
> > Tom, are you trying to tell me that R&S CCIE's who passed V3 are less
> > competent than a CCIE that will pass V4.
> >
> > Come on man, listen to yourself. ANY and I repeat ANY CCIE Lab is not
> > easy to pass. Cisco have merely added a few more hoops to jump through.
> > That's all. If your are a competent engineer and have studied the
> > technologies well then be it a V3 or V4 Lab, you will ace it.
> >
> > Sounds like sour grapes to me.
> >
> > CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Marc La Porte
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:08 PM
> > To: Tom Solski
> > Cc: Shaughn Smith; Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi; Nadeem Rafi; Johnny
> > B CCIE; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > I assume you notice that Shaun passed the Service Provider exam, of
> > which there is no version 3. Maybe it is a good idea to be nice before
> > rude and have your facts clear.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Marc
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 13:01, Tom Solski <tom.solski_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Too bad I was not lucky like you: get the CCIE the easy way (v3) and
> > count
> >> on others to keep the value up :)
> >> Seriously, no pass in 30 days is just ridiculous.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> >> Shaughn Smith
> >> Sent: 17-Nov-09 02:21
> >> To: Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi; Nadeem Rafi
> >> Cc: Johnny B CCIE; Cisco certification
> >> Subject: RE: 21 days and no pass ..
> >>
> >> People passing is just a matter of time. And to Tharindu no they will
> >> not discontinue the R&S track. That's not even a thought. They have
> > just
> >> made it harder to pass now, which to me is a good thing. Keeps the
> > value
> >> of the cert up. I hope they start making similar changes to the other
> >> tracks.
> >>
> >> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> >> Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:34 AM
> >> To: Nadeem Rafi
> >> Cc: Johnny B CCIE; Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
> >>
> >> no need to worry ... that is the value of ccie.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Its sad but yes 30 days and no one passed....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi <
> >>> btharindu_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> will they discontinue R&S track ?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Is anyone tracking if anyone is even going to take the RS lab?
> >> Maybe
> >>>> > there are seats and no one is home?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
> >>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> > > And I am about to remove the one I passed along, the guy from
> >> China
> >>>> > passed
> >>>> > > on Voice lab, not on RS.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > A.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Rick Mur wrote:
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> No confirmed pass, there are rumors though....
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> --
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Regards,
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> Rick Mur
> >>>> > >> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> >>>> > >> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>> > >> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >>> Hi,
> >>>> > >>> 21 days and no pass......
> >>>> > >>>
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