Re: Narbik CCIE 2.0 bootcamp

From: Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:04:21 -0500

Thank you.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok this is what i replied with:
>
> YES, I am part of the 360, but my students get a mixture of 360 and my
> NEW 2.0 boot camp.
> YES, they do get Mock labs, and TS labs.
> YES, the students are eligible for a FREE retake, but they need to
> pass ONE of the assessment labs with a score of 80 or higher and get
> my recommendation. I have told them that if they want my
> recommendation they need to take care of me .JK
> The recommendation is based on their performance in the class. If you
> can not see your students knowledge and ability within a week, you
> either are NOT interested or you have not done this 2 long ( THIS IS NOT
> PICKING ON NEW INSTRUCTORS, SO PLEASE RELAX).
> Yes, I do mentor, the philosophy here is that *our relationship starts*
> *when the class ends*, unlike some vendors and I think my students will
> testify that I have
> always answered their questions.
> The cost of the class is NOT what others think, its $2995, but the
> students get the following:
> Upon registration, an E-copy of Foundation
> In the class, they get the NEW Advanced CCIE Routing and Switching
> 2.0. This is a 2500 page work book in FULL color with detailed
> explanations of each command and task.
> The 360 Vol-I and Vol-II + Lab guide, which contains the assessment labs.
> The all NEW 2.0 Boot Camp work book.
> NO, the students do not get a printed copy of anything, except the
> questions of the work books (They get two printed work books that
> contains the questions ONLY, BTW in full colour). I will not work hard
> so a person or another training company can copy my materials and use
> them, have they done it in the past? YES one training company here in
> US and another one somewhere else.
> NO.... I do not pay for meals, Taxi, or accommodations or long distance
> calls.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi Narbik,
>> there will be no harm if you send those answers here also. They will not
>> hurt any one.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Keenon, Thanks very much and I am glad you enjoyed the class.
>>> Hey .I only did what you paid me for. Once again thanks. BTW, I was so
>>> nervous about the lady that was 8.5 months pregnant; I thought any
>>> minute I have to run out and scream for help, but then again that
>>> would have been a good ad for CCIE certification .hahahahahah JK.
>>> Once again thanks.
>>>
>>> Johnny, I just Unicasted you and answered your questions. Please
>>> Unicast me if you have more questions.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM, keenon <kmoorman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Iwan,
>>> >
>>> > I definitely learned alot even about things I thought I had mastered.
>>> >
>>> > On 11/14/09, Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>> >> Well you probably learned some good stuff!
>>> >> You must be tired!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>> >> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>> >> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>> >> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:55 PM, keenon <kmoorman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> I just got back from probably the most intensive and informative boot
>>> >>> camp
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> have ever taken.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Before going to class you will receive a prep workbook to work
>>> >>> through. I
>>> >>> however didn't have time to do half if any of the labs but did manage
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> read a few of them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On the first day started with a joke and an introductions. Once all
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> introductions are out of the way down to business. I have heard he
> has
>>> >>> IOS
>>> >>> on the brain.. I can say it 100% and some!!! He starts teaching not
>>> >>> with a
>>> >>> dim light slide show but writing the commands on the board from
>>> >>> memory,
>>> >>> writing the sub-options from memory, explaining what all of them do
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> all
>>> >>> the possibilities depending on scenarios ! This is with drawing the
>>> >>> topology, device outputs and not missing a single thing. I can say if
>>> >>> you
>>> >>> were proud of whatever certification you have got seeing this will
>>> >>> make
>>> >>> you
>>> >>> question yourself , yet he is so humble about the whole thing.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I will warn you if you were expecting a 8/9am to 5pm class this ain't
>>> >>> it!
>>> >>> Class is a solid 10-12 hours with the necessary labs and breaks. I
>>> >>> found
>>> >>> myself going to bed at 12-1am every morning. I'm lucky I had a game
>>> >>> plan
>>> >>> that worked for me of waking up at 6am! working out, getting cleaned
>>> >>> up
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> then going to class. Narbik had breakfast, lunch and dinner with the
>>> >>> students everyday. Completely unheard of! from any of my experiences
>>> >>> of
>>> >>> attending any Cisco classes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> During our class we had a few students that were retakes (On a couple
>>> >>> from
>>> >>> the US and 1 that came over from the UK!), mind you he doesn't charge
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> retakes for any of his students( he recommends that you take it again
>>> >>> before
>>> >>> taking the lab) if you have paid for the class even if you have
> passed
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> lab. He has a genuine interests in each student not just for making
>>> >>> sure
>>> >>> you
>>> >>> pass the exam but as a real relationship ( that's something you can't
>>> >>> buy
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> fake).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> He keeps the learning environment fun and awesome learning
> experience.
>>> >>> With
>>> >>> funny stories, simple explanations for what seems complex and no one
>>> >>> ever
>>> >>> falling asleep because of the constant engagement he has with the
>>> >>> students.I
>>> >>> have taught IT related classes (for 2 years) but I'm not even on the
>>> >>> same
>>> >>> planet when it comes to the style, presentation, information and
>>> >>> everything
>>> >>> else I can think of.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> He wants honest feed back from the students (which we all felt like a
>>> >>> team)
>>> >>> gives honest feedback and recommendations on how to approach the IE
>>> >>> without
>>> >>> loosing your life and family in the process.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In my opinion there's not another training provider I would use or
>>> >>> recommend
>>> >>> for the CCIE than Narbik. Also his grandmother has 2 CCIE's. :-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> You can't be what your not but you can be what you want.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>> >> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>> >> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>> >> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Sent from my mobile device
>>> >
>>> > You can't be what your not but you can be what you want.
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Narbik Kocharians
>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
>>> www.MicronicsTraining.com
>>> Sr. Technical Instructor
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Narbik Kocharians
> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> www.MicronicsTraining.com
> Sr. Technical Instructor
> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> Training And Remote Racks available
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html

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