Re: 3 vlans and a problem

Thanks Gary. I did not ask anything I don't have an answer for
already. I am trying to get the study group back on track by asking
technical questions. Good find and exactly what I am speaking of.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Gary Duncanson
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> You may find some mileage in this..
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk815/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094663.shtml
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>
>
>> Thanks Gary. I am sorry I made the additional comment about lame
>> ccies. I tried to start a technical thread and not a non-techical
>> off-topic. Can we please stay on-topic? Thanks.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gary Duncanson
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not everything is solved with google and sometimes it simply creates much
>>> more problems. There are CCIE's who will struggle with all manner of
>>> situations. It really depends on what one is asked to do, if they have
>>> done
>>> it before and how quickly they are required to resolve it. If you have
>>> anything other than basic wireless to setup and it needs doing quickly a
>>> CCIE without wireless knowhow could find it a challenge temporarily while
>>> someone who configures controllers and APs all day long may wonder what
>>> the
>>> fuss is about. But then you don't call a CCNA out to fix problems with
>>> your
>>> STM interfaces and VRF life in the core when your partners are dropping
>>> packets and losing money....horses for courses really.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: "groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> Fair enough. Even a ccna like me can use google. :) If there is a
>>>> problem and a ccie can't or won't help out because they simply don't
>>>> want to I'd have a position to fill or find a new company to contract
>>>> with. I've never heard of any ccie being called arrogant either.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Gary Duncanson
>>>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Or it could be that those CCIE's dont use wireless much. Since wireless
>>>>> was
>>>>> dropped from previous CCIE written versions there will be many CCIE's
>>>>> who
>>>>> are shy on even wireless theory let alone configuration. A lot of
>>>>> network
>>>>> engineers dont go near wireless, either because it's not used in their
>>>>> shop
>>>>> or they simply don't want to :)
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes but what some options to configure this bridge? We are ccie
>>>>>> students so we should not only want to know what a technology is but
>>>>>> how to configure the technology, if there are options, and most
>>>>>> importantly how we are going to do to verifty and troubleshoot a
>>>>>> problem. A friend of mine who is a ccna wireless is always amazed in
>>>>>> wireless networks when the ccie type from cisco partners cannot seem
>>>>>> to get this to work right. He calls me laughing when ccies can not
>>>>>> troubleshoot the problem but it might because the concept was missing
>>>>>> in the first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome mr bridge...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:01:28
>>>>>>> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far 2 ccies have come to the same conclusion of private vlans
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>> I was not clear enough with the question but I reworded my query very
>>>>>>> closely to the original question. I am not asking questions I do not
>>>>>>> already have an answer for by the way. I merely am starting a review
>>>>>>> of things I want to know perfectly before my trip to the lab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose we can use private vlans to apply the same subnet mask but
>>>>>>> we would have achieved the exact opposite of the desired outcome for
>>>>>>> this question. So private vlans will achieve the the lab requirement
>>>>>>> to allow all three vlans to use the same subnet however 0 points will
>>>>>>> be awarded for the task. Maybe there will be points awarded for
>>>>>>> re-grade or maybe not. Anyone want to try again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's say I have 3 vlans (10, 20, and 30).
>>>>>>>> Let's say I have a lab requirement to configure all three vlans to
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> the same subnet: 172.16.10.0/24 (for each vlan).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What options are available to make these three vlans appear to be in
>>>>>>>> the same subnet?
>>>>>>>
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