Re: 3 vlans and a problem

Thanks Gary. I am sorry I made the additional comment about lame
ccies. I tried to start a technical thread and not a non-techical
off-topic. Can we please stay on-topic? Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gary Duncanson
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> Not everything is solved with google and sometimes it simply creates much
> more problems. There are CCIE's who will struggle with all manner of
> situations. It really depends on what one is asked to do, if they have done
> it before and how quickly they are required to resolve it. If you have
> anything other than basic wireless to setup and it needs doing quickly a
> CCIE without wireless knowhow could find it a challenge temporarily while
> someone who configures controllers and APs all day long may wonder what the
> fuss is about. But then you don't call a CCNA out to fix problems with your
> STM interfaces and VRF life in the core when your partners are dropping
> packets and losing money....horses for courses really.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> To: "groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>
>
>> Fair enough. Even a ccna like me can use google. :) If there is a
>> problem and a ccie can't or won't help out because they simply don't
>> want to I'd have a position to fill or find a new company to contract
>> with. I've never heard of any ccie being called arrogant either.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Gary Duncanson
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Or it could be that those CCIE's dont use wireless much. Since wireless
>>> was
>>> dropped from previous CCIE written versions there will be many CCIE's who
>>> are shy on even wireless theory let alone configuration. A lot of network
>>> engineers dont go near wireless, either because it's not used in their
>>> shop
>>> or they simply don't want to :)
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: "groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes but what some options to configure this bridge? We are ccie
>>>> students so we should not only want to know what a technology is but
>>>> how to configure the technology, if there are options, and most
>>>> importantly how we are going to do to verifty and troubleshoot a
>>>> problem. A friend of mine who is a ccna wireless is always amazed in
>>>> wireless networks when the ccie type from cisco partners cannot seem
>>>> to get this to work right. He calls me laughing when ccies can not
>>>> troubleshoot the problem but it might because the concept was missing
>>>> in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:13 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome mr bridge...
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:01:28
>>>>> To: groupstudy<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: 3 vlans and a problem
>>>>>
>>>>> So far 2 ccies have come to the same conclusion of private vlans maybe
>>>>> I was not clear enough with the question but I reworded my query very
>>>>> closely to the original question. I am not asking questions I do not
>>>>> already have an answer for by the way. I merely am starting a review
>>>>> of things I want to know perfectly before my trip to the lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose we can use private vlans to apply the same subnet mask but
>>>>> we would have achieved the exact opposite of the desired outcome for
>>>>> this question. So private vlans will achieve the the lab requirement
>>>>> to allow all three vlans to use the same subnet however 0 points will
>>>>> be awarded for the task. Maybe there will be points awarded for
>>>>> re-grade or maybe not. Anyone want to try again?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's say I have 3 vlans (10, 20, and 30).
>>>>>> Let's say I have a lab requirement to configure all three vlans to use
>>>>>> the same subnet: 172.16.10.0/24 (for each vlan).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What options are available to make these three vlans appear to be in
>>>>>> the same subnet?
>>>>>
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