RE: OT: 3Com to be sold to HP for $2.7b

Is that called FUD ?

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Edmore Chingwena
Sent: 13-Nov-09 09:08
To: Shaughn Smith
Cc: Johnny B CCIE; groupstudy
Subject: Re: OT: 3Com to be sold to HP for $2.7b

Cisco claimed that some of the source code for the routers and switches were
direct copies of Cisco's source code, and also claimed that some of the user
guide information and online help pages were quoted verbatim.

2009/11/13 Shaughn Smith <shaughn.s_at_cvnnet.co.za>

> Similarities are due to the fact that they "stole" the IOS
>
> Werent they taken to court by Cisco due to this ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Edmore Chingwena
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:05 PM
> To: Johnny B CCIE
> Cc: groupstudy
> Subject: Re: OT: 3Com to be sold to HP for $2.7b
>
> The old Huawei VRP had similarities with cisco IOS. But the new VRP is
> completely different . Worked in Huawei,s R&D for a year and HTAC for
> another year and engineering service for 2 more years. The huawei VRP is
> a
> product of extensive development and R&D work.
>
> The routers are powerful not Fong Kong me too products
>
> Regards
>
> 2009/11/12 Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>
> > Isn't Huawei Cisco IOS rebranded and cheaper? So now Cisco IOS is
> > owned by HP and HP has the muscle to compete with Cisco using the
> > non-Cisco IOS that is the Cisco IOS. HP can pump out a lot of
> > certifications and grow fast.
> >
> > HP Certified Networking Engineer. It will be very close to the CCIE.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Shaughn Smith
> <shaughn.s_at_cvnnet.co.za>
> > wrote:
> > > Found this interesting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3Com to be sold to HP for $2.7b
> > >
> > > Computer giant takes aim at Cisco's network business
> > >
> > > Computer giant Hewlett-Packard Co.
> > > <http://finance.boston.com/boston?Page=QUOTE&Ticker=HPQ> will buy
> > > network equipment maker 3Com Corp. of Marlborough for $2.7 billion
> in a
> > > head-on challenge to Cisco Systems Inc.
> > > <http://finance.boston.com/boston?Page=QUOTE&Ticker=CSCO> , which
> > > dominates the network business. The deal will position HP to attack
> the
> > > heart of Cisco's market, and it comes only a week after Cisco teamed
> up
> > > with data storage titan EMC Corp.
> > > <http://finance.boston.com/boston?Page=QUOTE&Ticker=EMC> of
> Hopkinton
> > > to invade HP's stronghold in server computers and storage.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "This is going to rock the networking world,'' said 3Com's
> president,
> > > Ronald Sege, adding that HP's global sales force could quickly
> expand
> > > 3Com's market share.
> > >
> > > 3Com is the second major Massachusetts tech company in the past
> month to
> > > be acquired by a Silicon Valley firm, as the tech sector reacts to
> > > decreased business spending with a wave of consolidation deals. In
> > > October, Cisco said it will pay $2.9 billion to acquire
> Tewksbury-based
> > > Starent Networks, a maker of network gear for cellular telephone
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > Just last week, Cisco teamed up with EMC in a joint venture to
> combine
> > > their computing, storage, and networking products in a play for HP's
> > > core business, enterprise computing equipment. Cisco just started
> making
> > > server computers this year.
> > >
> > > Tech giants are using mergers and alliances to quickly offer
> one-stop
> > > shopping to companies looking to save money by buying all their
> network
> > > products from a single vendor, instead of assembling corporate data
> > > centers one piece at a time. "It improves the efficiency, it
> improves
> > > the speed of deployment, and it drives costs down,'' said Abner
> > > Germanow, a networking analyst at IDC Corp. in Framingham.
> > >
> > > The 3Com purchase lets HP fill holes in its product mix far quicker
> than
> > > it could by developing its own product line from scratch. Although
> it is
> > > one of the world's leading makers of computer servers for big
> business,
> > > HP has offered only a limited range of networking hardware. Most of
> that
> > > has been at the "edge'' of the network, like the switches that
> connect a
> > > roomful of PCs and printers to a corporate system. Cisco dominates
> the
> > > "core'' market - switches and routers that distribute the massive
> > > amounts of data streaming into the network. With 3Com, HP gets a
> > > ready-made line of core network products to sell.
> > >
> > > Buying 3Com "gives us critical mass in a very important market,''
> said
> > > David Donatelli, a former top EMC executive who made a surprise move
> to
> > > HP in April. Donatelli will oversee 3Com in his new role as HP's
> > > executive vice president of enterprise servers and networking, and
> is
> > > slated to take over HP's storage operations in April, when his
> > > noncompete agreement with EMC expires. That will put him on the
> > > frontline of HP's rivalry with the Cisco-EMC joint venture.
> > >
> > > The deal illustrates 3Com's return to prominence after a dramatic
> > > decline earlier in the decade. 3Com was cofounded in 1979 by Bob
> > > Metcalfe, one of the inventors of Ethernet, a networking technology
> that
> > > has since become a global standard. 3Com was originally based in
> Santa
> > > Clara, Calif., and its line of Ethernet products made it one of the
> most
> > > successful technology firms of the 1990s, employing as many as
> 12,000
> > > workers at its peak.
> > >
> > > Tough competition from Cisco and the 2001 collapse of the first
> Internet
> > > boom devastated 3Com. The company ceded the enterprise networking
> market
> > > to Cisco and slashed thousands of jobs.
> > >
> > > 3Com now employs about 5,300 workers worldwide, including about 300
> in
> > > Massachusetts. Sege said he did not know how the HP acquisition
> would
> > > affect local 3Com workers.
> > >
> > > In 2003, a much diminished 3Com relocated to Marlborough. At about
> the
> > > same time, the company launched H3C, a joint venture with Chinese
> > > networking company Huawei Technologies.
> > >
> > > H3C's stable of Chinese engineers developed new high-end networking
> gear
> > > that was embraced by fast-growing Chinese companies, and has since
> > > attracted customers in Europe and Latin America. 3Com claims that
> 300 of
> > > China's 500 largest businesses use its products, along with US
> > > institutions like the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
> and
> > > the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
> > >
> > > In 2006, 3Com bought out Huawei's stake in H3C. The following year,
> > > investment firm Bain Capital teamed up with Huawei on a $2.2 billion
> bid
> > > to acquire 3Com.
> > >
> > > But federal regulators blocked the bid because 3Com owns
> TippingPoint, a
> > > maker of network security gear used by the US Department of Defense.
> > >
> > > The regulators noted Huawei's close ties to the Chinese government
> and
> > > worried that Huawei might help Chinese intelligence officials
> circumvent
> > > TippingPoint technology.
> > >
> > > After the Bain-Huawei deal fell apart early last year, 3Com focused
> on
> > > developing a new line of core switches and routers that it claims
> will
> > > outperform Cisco gear while using much less electricity.
> > >
> > > HP's Donatelli said that once the deal is completed, his company's
> > > 300,000 workers will exclusively use 3Com gear for networking needs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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