Re: AW: bad proctor

well I had a customer once who wanted me to setup his network as per his
requirement and he was not really very clear as to what he wanted the
network to be like. I had to go to his office a couple of times to ask him
about various doubts I had and as he was busy with his work he was getting
irritated which made me nervous and I wanted to avoid asking him again and
again. So in short I think of the proctor as a customer who wants us to
build the lab and complete certain requirements under pressure. In real life
after I get my ccie I will be out doing various projects and who knows
whether the customer will be nice or evil .. so will I get a chance or any
opportunity to complain to anyone ??? maybe or maybe not ... I think of the
lab as a real world thing and as a ccie we should be able to do our work
under any sort of pressure / attitude ..

Just my 2.234 cents ...

Ahmed.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>wrote:

> when i was in brussels last year, a proctor that did my first lab was in my
> view, yes MY VIEW at times short and ill-mannered, with often reactional
> comments to questions, the whole body language implied "what now". However
> in his defence on other occasions I asked him about XYZ he was fine.There
> was no consistency, he oither helped you a great deal, or seemed not to be
> up for it. At 9am when me and the rest of the class went to see him in a
> serial fashion he seemed to ge irate.
>
> My point being, no matter how pissed off you are, no matter how many times
> you need to repeat what you are saying you should not be be like that to
> anyone. Again, most of us will pay serious amounts of money to sit this,
> yes
> to me 1400 usd is a lot of money, i have family like everyone else and i
> need to justify every penny i spend. I demand value for that money i
> spend. I expect a proctor that wants to help all the time, everytime.
>
>
> The other proctor I had, well he was straight out of the top drawer -
> faultless, he seemed to have taken lessons from Scott Morris on manners and
> respect.
>
> Looking back at this post, I think the title "bad proctor" is a little
> previous and could have been worded a lot better.
>
> Regards,
> Merritt
>
>
>
> 2009/11/10 Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
>
> > I dress up when I have to thank you very much. :) I just don't
> > typically have to!
> >
> > I've been there, done that with the suit-every-day job. Not nearly as
> > exciting. I definitely agree that engineers shouldn't have to wear
> > suits, but the problem is that whole customer-facing stuff, especially
> > when you deal with non-techie people. ;) Society "norms" and all that
> > crap!
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Mur wrote:
> > > Haha that's pretty cool. I personally still think that Engineers
> > > shouldn't have to wear a suit.
> > > I personally never wear a suit to my work, not even to customers. When
> > > I'm at a customer in my casual outfit (not the Scott
> > > Morris-casual-friday-look of course ;-) it turn the conversation to a
> > > very relaxed one and don't see me as the supplier, but just the
> > > engineer who's trying to help them solve their problem or come up with
> > > a solution (in case of pre-sales activities).
> >
> >
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