Re: AW: bad proctor

Haha that's pretty cool. I personally still think that Engineers
shouldn't have to wear a suit.
I personally never wear a suit to my work, not even to customers. When
I'm at a customer in my casual outfit (not the Scott Morris-casual-
friday-look of course ;-) it turn the conversation to a very relaxed
one and don't see me as the supplier, but just the engineer who's
trying to help them solve their problem or come up with a solution (in
case of pre-sales activities).

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Regards,
Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
On 9 nov 2009, at 22:40, Florian Frotzler wrote:
> So proctor is no real job because his dress code did not fit you,  
> are you
> for real? WTF?
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> -F-
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> Von: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] Im Auftrag  
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> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2009 22:20
> An: Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com
> Cc: ccie preparation; Cisco certification; Iwan Hoogendoorn;
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Smooth IE
> Betreff: Re: bad proctor
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> Again, that's your view and that's fine. I just don't look at it the  
> same
> way. Personally, I had Howard at RTP at my last attempt and the only  
> thing
> that bothered me was his relax dress code that he enjoys every day.  
> And it
> only bothered me because I have to go back to my real job with my real
> business attire.
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> Charles Henson
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>  From:       <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>
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>  To:         Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
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>  Cc:         ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com,
>              Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
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>  Date:       11/09/2009 03:08 PM
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>  Subject:    Re: bad proctor
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> I disagree as well.  Not only the money but if cisco refuses to do  
> anything
> about "proctor Joe" then the only recourse is a public forum.  We  
> certainly
> wouldn't win any lawsuits individually.  Maybe proctor Joe cleans up  
> his
> act if he keeps seeing his name here.  Or maybe we identify a few  
> people
> who were less than honest about their lab experience.  Either way I  
> think
> discussion is a good thing.
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> Fro Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
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> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
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> Cc: Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com, ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>,  
> Cisco
>     certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Iwan Hoogendoorn
>     <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
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> Dat 11/09/2009 11:18 AM
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> I disagree.
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> We pay a hell of a lot of money for these exams (some of us, from our
> personal savings)  and we have every right to discuss this in this  
> manner.
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> 2009/11/9 <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> I'm not faulting anyone in this case. Whenever someone mentions  
> they've
> been to the lab, we always ask for details. I understand. But an
> individuals experience with a proctor is not the same thing as "How  
> do you
> like the new interface?" Even if other folks say they've had similar  
> issues
> with the proctor in question. That is even more the reason that these
> people should take it to Cisco and keep it off the thread. The last  
> thing I
> want is "Proctor Joe" to remember me from the forums when I walk in  
> the lab
> and then I'm already off on a bad note. Or worse, "Proctor Joe" gets  
> p1ss3d
> off that everyone is blasting him on the forums and then everyone  
> taking
> the lab is off on a bad note. Sorry, I feel this doesn't need to be  
> on the
> VERY PUBLIC forums.
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> Charles Henson
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> From:       <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>
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> To:         Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
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> Cc:         ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification <
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Iwan Hoogendoorn
>             <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
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> Date:       11/09/2009 09:53 AM
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> Subject:    Re: bad proctor
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> I see your point, but I don't think asking for more information is
> necessary unprofessional.  The entire point of this list is to share
> information on the lab.  That and those of us who have never sat for  
> a lab
> can't help but be curious.  Professionalism is a must, but you can't  
> fault
> us for asking questions.
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> From:
> <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> To:
> Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
> Cc:
> ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> Date:
> 11/09/2009 09:55 AM
> Subject:
> Re: bad proctor
> Sent by:
> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
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> Guys,
>     I am curious myself as to what the issue was but this is not the
> place. If he has an issue with a proctor that should be between him  
> and
> Cisco. Not posted on a public forum. Let's keep in professional. So  
> many
> other threads are clearly lacking that.....
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> Charles Henson
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> From:       Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
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> To:         ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>
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> Cc:         Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
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> Date:       11/09/2009 04:00 AM
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> Subject:    Re: bad proctor
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> What happened that the proctor is that bad?
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> --
> Regards,
>
> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> Sr. Support Engineer   IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
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> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>        I had a very bad procotor in brussels and want to complain  
>> about
>> him, where should i send an e-mail or open a case?
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>> Thanks
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> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> Sr. Support Engineer   IPexpert, Inc.
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