Re: bad proctor

Hi CCIE Preparation,

I think you are right not to discuss the details here before following the
complaints process. Contact cisco, tell them why you are unhappy, then see
whether you get a satisfactory response.

If you are still dissatisfied, having given the proctor/cisco an opportunity
to answer and if necessary explain or correct any issue, then I don't think
many people will object if you decide to discuss it publicly. Depending on
your cause for complaint, doing so without allowing for a
response/resolution might be unfair to the proctor and could worry other
candidates unnecessarily.

Controversy is easily started on the Internet, and topics have a habit of
rapidly spiraling well off the original point. Often none of the people
involved walk away smelling of roses.

Paul.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Tomasz Solski <tom.solski_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> This is not about ranting but about sharing experiance. Like telling that
> the Cisco's lunch sucks... Guts have nothing to do with that. I am not a
> public person and I value my privacy. I am very intereseted with this
> specific issue so I can learn something for myself from it. The last thing
> I
> want is to find out that my proctor is bad I do not know how to handle this
> on tha lab.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm paying from my personal savings so I know what you mean. I've stated
> my
> > viewpoint. You disagree. That's fine. Go ahead and rant. But at least
> have
> > the guts to put your real name in your sigline if you are gonna do it.
> >
> > Charles Henson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
> >
> > To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >
> > Cc: Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com, ccie preparation <
> ccie22_at_gmail.com>,
> > Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
> > Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > Date: 11/09/2009 10:17 AM
> >
> > Subject: Re: bad proctor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I disagree.
> >
> > We pay a hell of a lot of money for these exams (some of us, from our
> > personal savings) and we have every right to discuss this in this
> manner.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/9 <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> > I'm not faulting anyone in this case. Whenever someone mentions they've
> > been to the lab, we always ask for details. I understand. But an
> > individuals experience with a proctor is not the same thing as "How do
> > you
> > like the new interface?" Even if other folks say they've had similar
> > issues
> > with the proctor in question. That is even more the reason that these
> > people should take it to Cisco and keep it off the thread. The last
> thing
> > I
> > want is "Proctor Joe" to remember me from the forums when I walk in the
> > lab
> > and then I'm already off on a bad note. Or worse, "Proctor Joe" gets
> > p1ss3d
> > off that everyone is blasting him on the forums and then everyone taking
> > the lab is off on a bad note. Sorry, I feel this doesn't need to be on
> > the
> > VERY PUBLIC forums.
> >
> > Charles Henson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>
> >
> > To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >
> > Cc: ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification <
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Iwan Hoogendoorn <
> iwan_at_ipexpert.com
> > >, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > Date: 11/09/2009 09:53 AM
> >
> > Subject: Re: bad proctor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I see your point, but I don't think asking for more information is
> > necessary unprofessional. The entire point of this list is to share
> > information on the lab. That and those of us who have never sat for a
> > lab
> > can't help but be curious. Professionalism is a must, but you can't
> > fault
> > us for asking questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> > To:
> > Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
> > Cc:
> > ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification
> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> > Date:
> > 11/09/2009 09:55 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: bad proctor
> > Sent by:
> > <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Guys, I am curious myself as to what the issue was but this is not
> > the
> > place. If he has an issue with a proctor that should be between him and
> > Cisco. Not posted on a public forum. Let's keep in professional. So many
> > other threads are clearly lacking that.....
> >
> > Charles Henson From: Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com
> > > To: ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com> Cc: Cisco
> > certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Date: 11/09/2009 04:00
> > AM Subject: Re: bad proctor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What happened that the proctor is that bad?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Iwan Hoogendoorn
> > CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> > Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, ccie preparation <ccie22_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > > I had a very bad procotor in brussels and want to complain
> > about
> > > him, where should i send an e-mail or open a case?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Iwan Hoogendoorn
> > CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
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