Re: 21 days and no pass ..

The vendors already passed the lab. That is what Marko is saying. They
don't need to go again just because the lab changed a little. I said
that training vendors are reporting failure since the new labs became
1 day labs in 2001. Students have passed that is what they are
selling. If the students can't pass the new labs it is not the
trainers fault since other students have passed.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> why vendor should go for lab?
> Because they are producing helping material, and because its their business.
> Every business need a proof of concept which they are trying to sell. If a
> product cannot help its own creators then it looks very difficult to be sold
> to any potential buyer.
> A business need to be proved that it is still valuable. this is only reason
> vendors should go for lab.
> just my two cents...
> Best Regards,
> Nadeem Rafi
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Marko,
>>
>> Nadeem raises a good point. Instructors and trainers like Andrew
>> Caslow and Wendell Odom are guys who are considered very good
>> instructors and CCIE trainers who do this every day. Why can't they
>> pass a 1 day lab? You said they didn't try? Does that even make sense?
>>
>> Recent CCIEs said the lab is easy. Caslow failed the original 1 day
>> lab and Odom failed this latest version. I guess these kind of guys
>> don't get enough practice.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 16:26, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> why they are not trying... :)
>> >
>> > First of all - why would they?
>> >
>> > Second of all, we have discussed this before. If an instructor goes
>> > for a lab and he/she is already a CCIE, that would probably raise
>> > warning flags with Cisco. We are all in this business, but we are not
>> > cheaters.
>> >
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