Re: 21 days and no pass ..

Precisely. Most of the topics are exactly the same. MPLS is not that
much added to what was there before.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Gary Duncanson
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> Well you have a doyen Phil Remaker called in there to take a new format lab
> getting 34 %. Did he suddenly become less capable? Of course not. It was
> simply a new thing.
>
> I have no idea what fudge factor study aids are.
>
> Steller people will still pass the CCIE lab exam regardless of study
> materials used because there are three things vendors cant sell you.
>
> 1. A good brain
> 2. time
> 3. experience
>
> 1+2+3 = Version v4 lab pass in due course.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>
>
>> I'm sure people are scoring better than 34%. There are just no aids to
>> provide the extra fudge factor at the present time.
>>
>> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200107/msg00875.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Gary Duncanson
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not easier, if it was people would be sailing through. We haven't
>>> suddenly run out of capable students studying properly, they are out
>>> there
>>> and still at it.
>>>
>>> It's different and that requires tactical adjustments from students and
>>> trainers. Certainly there are decent training materials out there but
>>> there
>>> have been for years right back to NMC.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny B CCIE" <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 21 days and no pass ..
>>>
>>>
>>>> Correct. If anything the lab is easier now. Only 4 points for oeq.
>>>> Troubleshooting should be something we learned while doing our labs.
>>>> The lab itself only has 5 routers now instead of six. So really it is
>>>> easier for those who prepare well. We have the best training prep
>>>> materials ever available to any ccies who ever took the lab. We can't
>>>> ask for much more than this.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:45, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About 3 months of drought and 6 months for the flooding to start.
>>>>>> This time it is different and there is more higher quality training
>>>>>> material available than ever before.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is much bigger change this time, as the format itself is
>>>>> changed. It will simply take time for people to adjust their studying
>>>>> method.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't be too worried.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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