Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday

Hey i know this is quite a sensitive topic but to be honest i don't think
you can put candidates into nice little boxes based on the version of exams
they sat or the dates at which they got their numbers. From my own
experience i sat for version 3 once (no OEQ) and failed, wrote version 3
with OEQ three more times before passing, in all my attempts i passed the
OEQ sections and failed the main lab. Total lab attempts 4. In every lab i
knew exactly where i went wrong (it is so easy to spot those rabbit holes)
My take is everyone knows why they fail and if they have the determination
to work hard on their weak areas and can afford to go in again they will
eventually pass it. I remember after i failed my first attempt i was at
networkers in Barcelona last year and spoke to Steve Barnes (ccie
development team) and he told me that the lab was designed to be completed
in 6hrs and i was like no way I'll be able to do that, not possible with
what i had seen but guess what by my 4th attempt i finished the main lab in
6.5 hrs and was able to use over an hour to verify and correct mistakes. To
Stefan and all the V4 takers, it is just an exam, yes maybe a lot more
different which sometimes can translate into difficulty but i know that it
is passable. You guys just keep at it and all the best in your future
preparations......

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I see why you getting all ticked off.. you actually got your # during that
> period! Interesting :)
>
> As I said and as you have just said that 1 out of 4 questions is difficult
> so that means you should be able to get 3 right and have 21 points on the
> table?
>
> Now you still have what 7 hours left? and you have to grab 59 points. so if
> you are strong @ L2/L3 (looking at the V3 feedback from GS) you should be
> able to score 40-44 points. What that leaves you with is? 17 odd points
> from
> REST OF THE EXAM! Enough time to look through DOCCD and pick points where
> you think you are good with.
>
> THIS is the thing with V4 and I stress its no free ride. you have NO time
> to
> look up things on DOCCD so you need to know EVERYTHING or you have to come
> back.
>
> Are you telling me that is not easy? Come on you have got to be kidding me.
> You passed GREAT! but don't tell me it was not easy.
>
> Once again I am glad you worked hard and got your # but still easier than
> folks who did it BEFORE feb 09 (had to score 80) or after Oct 18th.
>
> Take it for what its worth but truth hurts :)
>
> Have a blessed day!
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:
>
> > What version of the lab did you take? Did you have to pass two parts or
> > one to get your number? Did you have to take a mini-exam where personal
> > interpretation combined with an extremely small sample set determined
> your
> > outcome? I'm sorry to break this to you, but the CCIE numbers didn't
> jump
> > off the charts with OEQ's. The delta between the number of questions you
> > could get wrong between your version of the exam and post OEQ's is 4.
> You
> > were given 30 minutes more to complete them and you were able to approach
> > the lab with a clear mind. One of the main factors that so many people
> are
> > having trouble with version 4 is that there are two new comers to the
> exam,
> > still fresh OEQs and troubleshooting. To anyone who has sat the exam
> with
> > OEQs, at least one of the questions is hard. It's fairly easy to let
> those
> > questions cloud your mind during the exam. Imagine if you were unsure of
> > two, don't you think that would throw you off your game? If you were to
> > dissect version 4 into 3 parts, I'm sure it would be less of a challenge.
> >
> > Once again, I'm wondering what you actually add to this list, besides
> > showing the world that you're a clown puncher.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Atlanta CCIE
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:40 AM
> > > To: Gary Duncanson; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE V4 lab failed yesterday
> > >
> > > Because you had to score 59 on the lab to pass :)
> > >
> > > On 11/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > Atlanta,
> > > >
> > > > Can you please clarify why you think the CCIE's who passed between
> > > Feb and
> >
>
>
>
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