Re: No SP Dates Available

heheh.. I would say it is FOR SP track. I got no problem AGAINST the other.
I think it is Cisco who is "against others" :P .. or something along those
lines

Puneet

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> So would that be the conspiracy FOR the SP track, or AGAINST the
> others? ;)
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> Puneet Kathpalia wrote:
> > I feel there is a conspiracy. How long does it take to develop
> > questions. Why was Sec/Voice/RnS so quick. I smell conspiracy :P
> > ..Somehow cisco is trying to "inject" more people out there with SP.
> >
> > I guess we will never know :)
> >
> > Puneet
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
> > <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >
> > They'll be on all tracks shortly. I just think there's developmental
> > delays. :) But soon. Be prepared!
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> >
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> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
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> > Puneet Kathpalia wrote:
> > > What I dont get is why has there been no OEQ introduced in SP
> > yet!! I agree
> > > with plenty of folks that OEQ is not the perfect solution but
> > why not have
> > > it in all tracks. I am just pondering/wondering on the reason
> > behind this.
> > > I am sure that is not going to stop any seat "grabbing" but just
> > wondering
> > > why not SP.. why security ;)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Puneet
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Atlanta CCIE
> > <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> SP is the stepchild so yeah
> > >>
> > >> On 11/2/09, sheherezada_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com> <sheherezada_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Of course. Personally, I wanted the SP first. But at that time,
> SP
> > >>> workbooks were almost inexistent, so I started with the R&S.
> > After I
> > >>> cleared R&S, SP was easier, even if it took me three attempts
> > to get
> > >>> it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now facing the v4 changes, it might be easier to update (some)
> > >>> knowledge rather than facing a serious change of tactics. It
> > does make
> > >>> sense to me and maybe to those that already have some practical
> > >>> exposure to MPLS stuff.
> > >>>
> > >>> Besides, Marko is right when saying that SP did not change too
> > much.
> > >>> It did not, in three years already.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mihai
> > >>>
> > >>> On Monday, November 2, 2009, Gary Duncanson
> > >>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com
> > <mailto:gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> You still have to pass the test though. While there is some
> > crossover
> > >>>> without serious MPLS config background you can't pass SP.
> > Antonio has
> > >>>>
> > >> been
> > >>
> > >>>> preparing for SP for a while now and is still at it. No easy
> > stride
> > >>>>
> > >> across
> > >>
> > >>>> really from R&S. Add to which some folks grumble at the SP
> > training
> > >>>> materials.
> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:sheherezada_at_gmail.com>>
> > >>>> To: "Marko Milivojevic" <markom_at_ipexpert.com
> > <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>>
> > >>>> Cc: "JAZ" <azeemu_at_gmail.com <mailto:azeemu_at_gmail.com>>;
> > "Majid Nazir Ahmad"
> > >>>> <majid.n.ahmad_at_gmail.com <mailto:majid.n.ahmad_at_gmail.com>>;
> > <alexeim73_at_gmail.com <mailto:alexeim73_at_gmail.com>>; "Cisco
> > certification"
> > >>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>>
> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:53 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: No SP Dates Available
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have another theory. It might be recent R&S candidates
> > chasing an
> > >>>> easier target. The knowledge base is not much different,
> > while the SP
> > >>>> does not feature OEQ's and serious troubleshooting yet. Why
> > not? A
> > >>>> CCIE number is still a CCIE number, regardless the track.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mihai
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> > <markom_at_ipexpert.com <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 13:50, JAZ <azeemu_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:azeemu_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Guys,
> > >>>> I am also looking for seat ... I tried everywhere , thats
> > true B there
> > >>>> is no seat available before April ... any idea how we can get
> > seat?
> > >>>> Cisco should add more seats or testing centers
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Demand for SP has traditionally been lower than for other
> tracks.
> > >>>> There are usually only 1-2 SP seats in lab centers. It used
> > to be only
> > >>>> 2-3 months waiting for any of them, but given all the rumors
> > about
> > >>>> pending SP exam updates and 3-month cancellation policy, I
> > think it's
> > >>>> "normal" to see this waiting period prolonged.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Keep refreshing, people are bound to cancel their seats. All
> > you need
> > >>>> to do is catch that.
> > >>>>
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