Re: CCIE R and S ver 4

What is really distrurbing is that we are so busy talking about
monekys and no one passing that no one is asking any questions about
things. I guess I will work the archives tonight for some issues. Come
on people back to work. Nothing to see here.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Narbik,
>
> Aren't people teaching the protocols now? Why aren't people passing
> yet? It should not matter if the test changes or not in this case. We
> are seeing something strange here. People have been taught the
> technologies or we like to think so and no one is passing. Are not
> enough people taking the test? Or are 90% of the technologies no
> longer sufficient to pass this exam? Do you have any of your students
> scheduled to take this lab Mister Narbik?
>
> AtlantaCCIE,
>
> Are all of these people monkeys who are failing the lab? Or are all of
> them poorly prepared and simply do not know the technologies? When
> will someone who is not a monkey pass?
>
> I actually read somewhere that they were teaching monkeys to erase the
> pod and re-write the config but maybe they copied and pasted too. Has
> anyone ever seen a monkey taking the lab when they were taking the
> lab? ;)
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> But Johnny,
>>
>> That way you will be teaching around the test, and this is a big problem. If
>> you teach the protocol, and i mean seriously teach 90 percent of each
>> protocol, your students will pass.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are smart you take the lab several times before you are an
>>> instructor. ;)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Alexei,
>>> >
>>> > I had to or else my number would have expired. I think as an instructor
>>> > if
>>> > you keep retaking the lab or even the written, it could raise flags.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Jonny English
>>> > <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> it means they failed the last attempt so they had to take it again if
>>> >> they
>>> >> want to pass
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > What does this say for people who take the lab more than once?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "You gotta have balls to retake a lab.."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Atlanta CCIE
>>> >> > <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> > > You gotta have balls to retake a lab.. Question is what IF you
>>> >> > > fail?
>>> >> > > Will
>>> >> > > that mean now you are NOT a ccie? LOL
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:21 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >> I suppose there is no rule for re-taking the lab once you have
>>> >> > >> passed
>>> >> > >> it because it does not serve any practical purpose. I am afraid
>>> >> > >> that
>>> >> > >> if one would do that, it would only catch Cisco's attention for
>>> >> > >> fraud
>>> >> > >> or something nasty. You can not just walk away and say "I just
>>> >> > >> wanted
>>> >> > >> to see your new lab".
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Of course, I know that you guys were joking, but still...
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Mihai
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Saturday, October 31, 2009, Alexei Monastyrnyi
>>> >> > >> <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> > >> wrote:
>>> >> > >> > one way to find out is to try :-) someone who has got a CCIE RS
>>> >> > >> > done
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > >> recently got recertified by RS written can just jump into his/her
>>> >> > "schedule
>>> >> > >> a lab" page and try scheduling one. :-)
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I remember Narbik said he passed RS written exam some time ago.
>>> >> > >> > :-)
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > "not possible to retake a lab" is kinda odd, it is possible to
>>> >> > >> > retake
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > >> written as many times as individual wants to (with a five-day
>>> >> > >> break
>>> >> > between
>>> >> > >> unsuccessful attempts or 180-day one if successful) :-)
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > A.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Scott Morris wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > While I technically haven't tried, I don't think it's possible
>>> >> > >> > to
>>> >> > retake
>>> >> > >> > a lab you have already passed unless you do one of the beta
>>> >> > >> > labs.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Alexei Monastyrnyi wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Technically, what would stop you from scheduling a lab after
>>> >> > >> > passing a
>>> >> > >> > written exam, even though the written one was for
>>> >> > >> > recertification
>>> >> > >> > and
>>> >> > >> > you already got your number? I believe nothing. It would look
>>> >> > >> > odd
>>> >> > >> > but
>>> >> > >> > still being a feasible act. :-)
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > A.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > ospfv2 wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > can they do that without first let their ccie expired ? and lose
>>> >> > >> > the
>>> >> > >> > old number ?
>>> >> > >> > i dont think so
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On 10/30/09, hopalong <ccieangel2_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Scott, Brian, Brad, Andrew Bruce.....can't one of you guys sit a
>>> >> > >> > lab
>>> >> > >> > for us
>>> >> > >> > and tell us that all is actually OK in CCIE land?
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
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