Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

"Undoubtedly it does replicate walking into a client that you are completely
unfamiliar with and the CEO & CIO & everybody else is breathing down your
neck while you try to figure everything out and resolve the issue!"

Love it! I wish the proctor would stand right there while you are working.I
remember couple of times I had to actually tell the CIO that you keep asking
questions and I will be sitting doing nothing while billing you.. next thing
you notice they walk away :D

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net> wrote:

> Actually as I sat for the lab this past Monday, I found myself getting
> frustrated at times with the way information was being presented and then I
> realized that I had been in this situation many, many times before.
>
> Undoubtedly it does replicate walking into a client that you are completely
> unfamiliar with and the CEO & CIO & everybody else is breathing down your
> neck while you try to figure everything out and resolve the issue!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Justin Mitchell
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: Marko Milivojevic
> Cc: Atlanta CCIE; Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Radioactive Frog; Brad
> Ellis; Cisco certification; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; omar parihuana; Roy
> Waterman; Smooth IE
> Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?
>
> /me raises hand
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info
> >wrote:
>
> > > Also - let's remove the thing about recert with written. Every three
> > > years you MUST pass ANY ccie track's lab to recert. Now THAT will be
> > > something :)
> >
> > I actually suspect that's in the making. With the troubleshooting part
> > going virtual, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see some sort of a
> > mini-lab as recert requirement in the future.
> >
> > Then again, written as it is now has merit from theoretical
> > perspective. In order to pass it, you need to know many technologies
> > from less hands-on perspective. In order to be "good expert", one
> > should have command of both. I believe this was Cisco's thinking with
> > OEQ's. Let me try to pain one picture for you.
> >
> > Say you are a contractor that has been called out to nervous client
> > that needs you to fix 12 problems in their network and need to make
> > some 15 changes in it - by the end of the day. At the start of the
> > day, their technical team have few questions to clear their minds.
> > They ask them. In order to leave good impression and continue to be
> > perceived as an expert in their eyes, you need to get them straight.
> >
> > Raise hands you who have been in this, or very similar, situation. I
> > have. This is precisely what CCIE lab is now trying to emulate. I
> > think it's good, we just need to work harder to achieve that level of
> > expertise. We will be better experts while Cisco keeps raising the
> > bar.
> >
> > ( I will not comment on GUI, as I have not seen it yet )
> >
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