Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

Well Said .... Seconded.

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From: "Muhammad Nasim" <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:04 PM
To: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
Cc: <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>; "Radioactive Frog" <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>;
"Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>; "Cisco certification"
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>; "omar parihuana"
<omar.parihuana_at_gmail.com>; "Roy Waterman" <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com>; "Smooth
IE" <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?

> Dear Atalanta,
>
> Why don't we see any one passing the lab from 1st or the 2nd world
> countries.
>
> So it seems to me that EVEN first and 2nd world countries CCIE are all
> dependent on the hardwork of Third World Countries (Cheating or something)
>
> Most importantly Cisco is located in First world country so I should say
> that these are people who are leaking the labs of in other words ;
>
> First World People + Third World People = LAB OUT
>
> So dear Atalanta next time please bear in mind what are you saying about
> any
> part of the world
>
> I can make a bid that once the lab start getting out in the internet then
> we
> will see a lot of people passing from US and other countries, Do I have a
> right to make a comment that ALL US CCIE Candidates are cheaters and they
> were just waiting for the LAB TO BE OUT
>
> Hope above will give you good lesson of thought
>
> No hard feelings
>
> Take care
>
>
> 2009/10/30 Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>
>> Take out the luck factor aka OEQs and we have 6 hours for config part.
>> I just HOPE they keep changing the stuff otherwise we will be in the
>> same situation.
>>
>> Also - let's remove the thing about recert with written. Every three
>> years you MUST pass ANY ccie track's lab to recert. Now THAT will be
>> something :)
>>
>> On 10/30/09, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Yeah I saw that. I was thinking about going back at the end of the year
>> but
>> > I think I might need to re-focus on a few things. ALL-FROM-NJs thread
>> > definitely was a good write-up and has me thinking....
>> >
>> > Charles Henson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > To: Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cc: omar parihuana <omar.parihuana_at_gmail.com>, Roy Waterman
>> > <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com>, Brad Ellis
>> > <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, Smooth IE <
>> smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>,
>> > Cisco certification
>> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Date: 10/30/2009 07:05 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > looks like when lab changes it has a good effect :)
>> >
>> > 32 days and only 6 voice ccie ?
>> >
>> > *CCIE Count Change by Country*
>> > [image: CCIE Count Change by
>> > Country]<
>> >
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/certified_ccies/worldwide.html>
>> > Source: Dual CCIE #18532 George Morton
>> > <http://www.madisonsolutions.net/
>> >
>> >
>> > Growth of the China CCIE count goes negative by -9
>> > http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46893
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Atlanta CCIE
>> > <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I hear you. My point was that you only had to CONFIGURE 59 points
>> >> worth
>> > of
>> >> tasks to pass ASSUMING you got 21 on the OEQs. Before folks had to
>> >> CONFIGURE
>> >> 80 points worth of tasks :) Thats all.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, omar parihuana <
>> omar.parihuana_at_gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > hahaha... sorry guy but many people din't pass between Feb and
>> >> > Oct...
>> >> and
>> >> > after OEQ introduction IMHO the lab exam wasn't ever a fair game...
>> if
>> >> you
>> >> > got 100% in lab sectio and fail at least 2/4 in OEQ you failed.. so
>> why
>> >> the
>> >> > "easiest of rides"?... if you weren't able to answer 3/4 OEQ game
>> >> > over!! have you asked somebody who took the exam before Feb and
>> >> > retook between Feb-Oct if the lab exam was more difficult before
>> >> > Feb,
>> > and
>> >> > easy after Feb?
>> >> >
>> >> > RGds.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> So it appears that anyone who passed during Feb 2009 - Oct 18th
>> >> >> 2009
>> > had
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> easiest of rides............. 21 Points and get 59 points on the
>> >> >> lab
>> > and
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> are set. I have heard stories where folks were done by 12pm :D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Roy Waterman <
>> roy.waterman_at_gmail.com
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi Brad
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Based on this fact, if the situation were to continue with some
>> more
>> >> >> weeks
>> >> >> > passing with noone or a couple of ppl passing, would Cisco be
>> > looking
>> >> to
>> >> >> > make appropriate changes so that people who do know their stuff
>> >> >> > are
>> >> able
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > have a decent chance of passing?
>> >> >> > From reports, it does appear to me that running out of time is a
>> > much
>> >> >> > bigger
>> >> >> > problem than it was in v3.
>> >> >> > It appears that:
>> >> >> > - there isnt time to go back over your work to verify
>> >> >> > - there isnt time to diagram or read the lab
>> >> >> > - there isnt time to go back over questions you may have got
>> >> >> > stuck
>> > on
>> >> >> > earlier
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Just curious as to whether you know if Cisco are happy with
>> >> >> > things
>> > as
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> > are, and intend to keep them that way, & also whether they intend
>> to
>> >> act
>> >> >> > upon what certain ppl who took the beta lab had to say (one of
>> which
>> >> was
>> >> >> > time ;))
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2009/10/27 Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > It's confirmed: as of yesterday, no one has passed the new CCIE
>> > R&S
>> >> >> lab
>> >> >> > > exam. Some people have passed certain parts, but no one has
>> passed
>> >> all
>> >> >> > > three parts - at least yet!
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > thanks,
>> >> >> > > Brad Ellis
>> >> >> > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> >> >> > > CCSI# 30482
>> >> >> > > CEO / President
>> >> >> > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> >> >> > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >> >> > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> >> >> > > International: +1-702-968-5100
>> >> >> > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >> >> > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> >> >> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> >> >> > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> >> Of
>> >> >> > > Smooth IE
>> >> >> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:19 PM
>> >> >> > > To: Cisco certification
>> >> >> > > Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > my friend claims to have passed last week. not sure of any more
>> >> >> details
>> >> >> > > other than taht yet.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > 2009/10/26 Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > Im at building C in SJ right now. Based on the # of people
>> > waiting
>> >> >> (or
>> >> >> > > > lack there of) for the proctor this morning, I'd venture to
>> >> >> > > > say
>> >> >> > > there's
>> >> >> > > > a LOT of capacity for the R&S exam right now. I usually see
>> >> >> > > > 10+
>> >> >> people
>> >> >> > > > waiting in the Building C lobby at 8.10am. Today, there were
>> > only
>> >> >> four
>> >> >> > > > total!
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > thanks,
>> >> >> > > > Brad Ellis
>> >> >> > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> >> >> > > > CCSI# 30482
>> >> >> > > > CEO / President
>> >> >> > > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> >> >> > > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> >> >> > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> >> >> > > > International: +1-702-968-5100
>> >> >> > > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> >> >> > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> >> >> > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> >> >> > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> >> >> Behalf
>> >> >> > > Of
>> >> >> > > > Jonny English
>> >> >> > > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:05 AM
>> >> >> > > > To: Rick Mur
>> >> >> > > > Cc: Vibeesh S; Atlanta CCIE; Hammer; Cisco certification
>> >> >> > > > Subject: Re: OT - V4, week 1, no new CCIEs?
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > last week someone said testing centers were full.....
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > > I also think that the test centers were really empty the
>> >> >> > > > > last
>> >> >> week.
>> >> >> > > I
>> >> >> > > > think
>> >> >> > > > > people are quite scared of the new lab format and wait on
>> >> >> > > > > the
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> > > > > responses :-)
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > --
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > Regards,
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > Rick Mur
>> >> >> > > > > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>> >> >> > > > > Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> >> >> > > > > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Vibeesh S
>> > <vibselva_at_gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> I don't think many would have taken the lab in the first
>> week
>> >> >> after
>> >> >> > > > >> change.
>> >> >> > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Atlanta CCIE
>> >> >> > > <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > > >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >>
>> >> >> > > > >> > Sucks for the people of the 3rd world countries. Oh wait
>> >> until
>> >> >> > > > things
>> >> >> > > > >> > start leaking out of china and india and may be dubai :)
>> >> >> > > > >> >
>> >> >> > > > >> > On 10/26/09, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > > not everyone posts on GS. So who knows, someone might
>> > have
>> >> >> > > > passed.
>> >> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Hammer
>> > <bhmccie_at_gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> OK, It's been a week. Did ANYONE pass the lab or hear
>> of
>> >> >> > > anyone
>> >> >> > > > >> passing
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> the
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> first week? NO, I did not expect it. I was just
>> curious.
>> >> >> We've
>> >> >> > > > >> certainly
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> seen the comments from those that visited the labs
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> this
>> >> >> week.
>> >> >> > > > Nothing
>> >> >> > > > >> in
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> their comments made me feel good but we all know that
>> >> Cisco
>> >> >> > > > needs
>> >> >> > > > >> some
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> time
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> to burn in the new setup.
>> >> >> > > > >> > >>
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> Back to BGP.....
>> >> >> > > > >> > >>
>> >> >> > > > >> > >> -Hammer
>> >> >> > > > >> > >>
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