Re: R&S v4 points

also, all the success stories i read from people that passed the lab with
the OEQ was that they were a piece of cake and if you know your stuff then
you will get them correct. so why are we all talking about luck

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> thats why its good to pray before you sit the lab ;)
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:04 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Understand what you're saying but there is a luck factor. One can't know
>> all topics 100%. Thus you have to be lucky in the fact that the questions
>> line up with your strong points.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:00:34
>> To: Nadeem Rafi<nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: Cisco League<ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>; Atlanta CCIE<
>> atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: R&S v4 points
>>
>> no such thing as luck if u study
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Before ccie lab was a technical thing, to add some fun, cisco put some
>> luck
>> > factor in lab. Now to pass cisco lab you need luck as well as tech.
>> > knowledge.
>> >
>> > Have fun...
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Cisco League <
>> ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Look at it this way:-
>> > >
>> > > You read a 1000 page book (hypothetical) and someone asks you 100
>> > questions
>> > > and you need only 80 to pass. You error margin is huge i.e. u can get
>> 20
>> > > questions wrong or not don't answer 20 questions that u either don t
>> know
>> > > or
>> > > r not sure of.
>> > >
>> > > Now if u r given enormous amount of literature and anything and
>> > everything
>> > > is a fair game and then u r asked only 4 questions out of which u need
>> 3
>> > > correct else u fail. The dynamics change. U now have error margin of
>> > > getting
>> > > 1 wrong and the rest three that u answer should be correct not by your
>> > > interpretation but by what CISCO expects as an answer or is convincing
>> to
>> > > the proctor.
>> > >
>> > > If you know your stuff well and it's ur lucky day u will sail through
>> the
>> > > OEQs else u fail the 8hr exam in first 20 minutes.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You win points if u know ur stuff well and possibly answer all 4
>> > correctly
>> > > leaving margin of one question to interpretation and come close to
>> > passing.
>> > > U still need you configuration portion correct.
>> > >
>> > > You answer more than one wrong and u fail entire lab even if u score
>> 100%
>> > > in
>> > > configuration portion.
>> > >
>> > > In my opinion it is how you look at it. On the exam day u need so many
>> > > things to go right in your favour to come out with a Pass. It's easier
>> to
>> > > fail.
>> > >
>> > > If someone wants to correct my thought process please do so.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Awesome! Now get rid of oeqs since that made passing too easy imho.
>> > > > Free 21 points in 15 min? Can't beat that :)
>> > > >
>> > > > On 10/29/09, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>> > > > > You need approximately 75-80% to pass the troubleshooting section.
>> > You
>> > > > > need 80% to pass the configuration section.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thanks,
>> > > > > Brad Ellis
>> > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> > > > > CCSI# 30482
>> > > > > CEO / President
>> > > > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> > > > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> > > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> > > > > International: +1-702-968-5100
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>> > > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>> > > Of
>> > > > > Jack
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:21 PM
>> > > > > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > > > > Subject: R&S v4 points
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. OEQ: 3/4 to pass
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2. Troubleshouting: 10 - 12 tickets, how many points/tickets to
>> pass?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3. Configuration: Some one posted that taking EGP for example,
>> > instead
>> > > > > of separating into THREE questions like in previous version, the
>> new
>> > > > > version put all tasks into ONE big question. CCIE lab exam does
>> not
>> > > > > grant partial credit. If there were 13 tasks all together and
>> some
>> > one
>> > > > > was able to accomplish 12 tasks out of it. Does it mean that the
>> new
>> > > > > version will give 0% while the old version will give 66% in this
>> > > > > section?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Jack
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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