I am not here to sell, I am not here to promote or do anything of the sort,
but what I will say is this;
I used INE for my CCIE SP and it has been AWESOME materials.
I have used IPExpert BLS for CCIE Voice and it was GREAT!
I went to many classes at CCBootcamp starting with CCVP, then CCNP/DP and many
many more including my CCIE Voice bootcamp and CCDE. The one thing I would
like to simply say about CCBootcamp (As no one on here seems to step up for
them) THEY HAVE AMAZING INSTRUCTORS and they always seem to find better and
better ones. Like David Clark, GENIUS with R&S. This guy took the CCDE Written
exam right when it came out and passed it with flying colors. He used to work
for IBM as an Architect and is just AMAZING. Awesome personality as well. You
all may know a gent on here named Keith Barker, he has moved on to another
company but when I was at CCBootcamp with him, EVERY student left with a smile
and a halo of how smart they felt. One guy who came from South Africa seemed
like he didnt want to leave. There are many many more stories and things I can
tell you about.
I hear this bickering about pricing, I will admit sometimes CCBootcamp can
be alittle more on the expensive side, BUT, they were also the ones who
invented this whole, pay small amount upfront and let us break the rest down.
I will tell you a few years ago coming out of the Army I was BROKE! I had
literally little to nothing. Dawn and Brad stepped up to the plate and hooked
me up to getting my CCVP and that was when my world and life changed and I
would NEVER EVER FORGET THAT. They are a great team, sometimes though I will
throw this out there, they are not the easiest or best to work with or for,
but for the students they try their hardest. Also, Dawn who is head of sales
has never shied down from trying to make the lowest price and if they couldnt
due to the costs of the materials, they always stepped up with free rack
sessions, or extra books and materials.
Once again, whether Grey Market, Cisco official, or anything else, every
vendor I have worked with has been AMAZING, with prices, with assistance and
with getting me through the challenges. On this note though, I just wanted to
say how great CCBootcamp is and give them some props cause as the hundreds or
maybe even thousands of students I have seen go through their doors, in my
classes, in my online sessions, no one seems to show them enough appreciation
for how hard they work and took care of all their students.
Thanks to all you guys INE and IPE also for the hard work put into the VOD and
BLS learnings, those have been awesome and really laid a great foundation as
well.
Regards,
James
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Lawson <groupstudy_at_ipexpert.com>
To: Dawn Tesar <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
Cc: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>; mark jackson
<markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>; <smorris_at_ine.com> <smorris_at_ine.com>; Brad Ellis
<brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>; JR Garcia <ttuner_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
Wow....it actually "sounds" like a great program....I guess time will tell,
eyh??!?! ;-)
Regards,
Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
Founder & President - IPexpert
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On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:07 PM, "Dawn Tesar" <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> Well if you call limited time a year from now then OK but please if >
something is working why would it go away. Also... you can sign up > now and
you do not have to use that free retake within the promo > period. HMMMM
choices....
>
> FREE Retake - YES
> FREE content updates - YES (if needed - see below)
>
> Let's focus on the technical aspects of this program instead of the > pretty
part - that is why we are all here. The content is perfectly > aligned and
targeted to the blueprint - I imagine if a company is > publishing an update -
there is something inconsistent in the > content and it needs to be changed.
Shouldn't it be right in the > first place?
>
> Here's another point - since the program is targeted - it is > designed to
get you through your CCIE in LESS than a year. Your CCIE > shouldn't take your
life away.
>
> FYI - I will match IPE course prices... :)
>
> Thanks,
> Dawn Tesar
> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax 702.446.0357 > Skype
skype:ccbootcamp?call
> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco Premier >
Channel Partner
> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Lawson [mailto:groupstudy_at_ipexpert.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:42 PM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Dawn Tesar; mark jackson; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR > Garcia;
Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>
> Dawn -
>
> If a 360 student fails - they get a retake of the lab for free
> (correct me if I'm wrong - but that's a "limited time only" offer -
> and will be going away soon). However, if they don't pass - they
> obviously need additional assistance or training - so I'm wondering if
> there are free retakes for 360 students (and are there free updates to
> materials if / when the blueprint changes?.....I honestly don't know
> the answer - if so - (if 360 students get a free retake in a class)
> that's awesome! If not - the second lab attempt could be
> worthless...unless - of course - they buy another product (maybe grey
> market) to get the over that hump.... ;-). (kidding - of course!)
>
> Also - I'd have to argue that some grey market options are
> cheaper - your assumption that the 2 options (360 vs non-360) cost the
> same is not accurate.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder & President - IPexpert
> Mailto: wlawson_at_ipexpert.com
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 701
> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>
> ::Message sent from iPhone::
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well said. How could one even think about grey market?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Dawn Tesar <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually... take it from someone who knows the Cisco 360 Program -
>>> you only
>>> have to buy a single class and a graded assessment to be a part of
>>> the Cisco
>>> Lab Safe. :)
>>>
>>> Well worth the protection. And it doesn't cost a cent more than grey
>>> market. HMMMM... what would I choose?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
>>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada 89014
>>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax 702.446.0357
>>> Skype
>>> skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco Premier
>>> Channel Partner
>>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
>>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
>>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:25 PM
>>> To: smorris_at_ine.com
>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco certification; Dawn Tesar
>>> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>>>
>>> ...mental note made ;-)
>>>
>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hehehehe... While that made me laugh out loud, I'd still at least
>>>> caution that it's not the WHOLE story.
>>>>
>>>> You have to purchase several other things to be part of the Cisco
>>>> Safe
>>>> Lab program.
>>>>
>>>> So I think you have to BUY the screwdriver set in order to get the
>>>> special case.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> mark jackson wrote:
>>>>> ...but wait there's more! Act now and receive absolutely free, >>>>>
this
>>>>> free screwdriver set.
>>>>> Sorry, could resist (hehe)
>>>>> All great people JR and well worth looking at ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:42 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> JR,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you book your class with CCBOOTCAMP (my company), you will
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> free
>>>>>> retake of not only our class, but if you fail your lab exam, with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Cisco 360 lab safe program, you will also get a free retake of >>>>>>
the
>>>>>> lab
>>>>>> exam as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>>>> CEO / President
>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> JR Garcia
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:40 AM
>>>>>> To: Cisco certification
>>>>>> Subject: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was looking at taking a class spring 2010 before making an >>>>>>
attempt
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lab.
>>>>>> has any one ever attended one of his classes? the other vendors
>>>>>> offer a
>>>>>> lab/lecture type class, but i really don't want any lecture. i >>>>>>
can
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> watch videos on my own time to learn the technologies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving home for 3 weeks with no distractions and just >>>>>>
configuring
>>>>>> everyday
>>>>>> with someone there to give guidance is really appealing to me.
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> good way to finish up studying before an attempt. i haven't been
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find any reviews out there so i figured id try here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> -->> Narbik Kocharians
>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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