Re: AM I READING RIGHT?

There are always boundaries... Sometimes they're set beyond where
societal norms allow though. ;)

If you simply sandbagged your buddy, then that's more fun. And that's
more my style of betting. Only bet on things you can win. But don't
necessarily place a bet and then find any way psosbiel to win.

My two cents.

Scott

Johnny B CCIE wrote:
> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no pretentions
> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral boundaries.
> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win and
> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
> It's like taking candy from a baby.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Johnny,
>>
>> I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you are
>> knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you wanted
>> to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some serious
>> studying.
>>
>> Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to test
>> preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will take about
>> a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its understanding it
>> all so you can pass the test.
>>
>> BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have to", which
>> is GR8.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
>>> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week and
>>> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab within
>>> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
>>>> To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>
>>>> This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor, just a
>>>> personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back that the
>>>> CCIE
>>>> is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and another
>>>> person
>>>> responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree with the
>>>> person
>>>> who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a few
>>>> years the
>>>> CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will loose
>>>> their
>>>> stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
>>>> Microsoft
>>>> tried to do to save their program. They came out with the "Masters"
>>>> Program
>>>> and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect" Program.
>>>> Now
>>>> with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really feel
>>>> Cisco
>>>> will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my observation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue, the
>>>> format
>>>> won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
>>>> proctors.
>>>> This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in more
>>>> locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Watch this speace....
>>>>
>>>> 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing the
>>>>> lab
>>>>> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can imagine
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own CCIE
>>>>> 'floors'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Mur
>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
>>>>>
>>>>>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the future will
>>>>>> bring...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching v4.0
>>>>>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing locations
>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new questions
>>>>>>> covering
>>>>>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new scenario-based
>>>>>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on troubleshooting of
>>>>>>> preconfigured
>>>>>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and pricing
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and the
>>>>>>> eight-hour lab
>>>>>>> at USD $1400.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue as
>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
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