Re: AM I READING RIGHT?

Are they not a training company that has sells training resources to
prepare for the CCIE Lab? Would you suggest something else? I have
used them to successfully pass the Written portion of the lab and
there material is very much keeping with the blueprint I am using. I
have very limited time and am trying to be efficient.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Are INE stuff legit?
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> So far I have been using common materials that are available for sale
>> and use. I am also using the online resources provided by Cisco. I am
>> using anything that might be expected of any other person who has paid
>> for a lab exam. I am no different. Presently I am using the products
>> from Internetworkexpert.com and I will use others when I have
>> completed these if time permits. The only policy I have is to pass the
>> exam and win the wager.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > LoL. On the moral boundaires statement. Wouldn't want anyone to assume
>> > you are doing things against policies ;-)
>> >
>> > Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > Please excuse spelling errors
>> >
>> > On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
>> >> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
>> >> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no pretentions
>> >> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral boundaries.
>> >> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win and
>> >> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
>> >> It's like taking candy from a baby.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> >> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Johnny,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you
>> >>> are
>> >>> knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you
>> >>> wanted
>> >>> to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some
>> >>> serious
>> >>> studying.
>> >>>
>> >>> Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to
>> >>> test
>> >>> preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will
>> >>> take about
>> >>> a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its
>> >>> understanding it
>> >>> all so you can pass the test.
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have
>> >>> to", which
>> >>> is GR8.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
>> >>>> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week and
>> >>>> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab
>> >>>> within
>> >>>> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino
>> >>>> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>> >>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> >>>>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>> >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> >>>>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
>> >>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
>> >>>>> To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor,
>> >>>>> just a
>> >>>>> personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back
>> >>>>> that the
>> >>>>> CCIE
>> >>>>> is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and
>> >>>>> another
>> >>>>> person
>> >>>>> responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree
>> >>>>> with the
>> >>>>> person
>> >>>>> who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a few
>> >>>>> years the
>> >>>>> CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will loose
>> >>>>> their
>> >>>>> stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
>> >>>>> Microsoft
>> >>>>> tried to do to save their program. They came out with the "Masters"
>> >>>>> Program
>> >>>>> and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect"
>> >>>>> Program.
>> >>>>> Now
>> >>>>> with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really
>> >>>>> feel
>> >>>>> Cisco
>> >>>>> will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my observation.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
>> >>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> >>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue,
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> format
>> >>>>> won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
>> >>>>> proctors.
>> >>>>> This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in more
>> >>>>> locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Watch this speace....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> lab
>> >>>>>> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can
>> >>>>>> imagine
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>>> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own CCIE
>> >>>>>> 'floors'.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Rick Mur
>> >>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> >>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
>> >>>>>>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the
>> >>>>>>> future will
>> >>>>>>> bring...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>> >>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>> >>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> >>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching
>> >>>>>>>> v4.0
>> >>>>>>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing
>> >>>>>>>> locations
>> >>>>>>>> worldwide.
>> >>>>>>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new
>> >>>>>>>> questions
>> >>>>>>>> covering
>> >>>>>>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new
>> >>>>>>>> scenario-based
>> >>>>>>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on troubleshooting of
>> >>>>>>>> preconfigured
>> >>>>>>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and
>> >>>>>>>> pricing
>> >>>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>>> remain
>> >>>>>>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and the
>> >>>>>>>> eight-hour lab
>> >>>>>>>> at USD $1400.00
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue
>> >>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>> well?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> James
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>> >>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>> >>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> >>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
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