Re: AM I READING RIGHT?

I like that attitude. I made a bet that i will get three CCIEs in less than
a year, i got my Security in Oct 21-03, 21 days later (Nov 11-03) i got my
R&S but i missed my SP by 8 days (Nov 19-03) and lost the bet. Oh well......

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no pretentions
> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral boundaries.
> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win and
> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
> It's like taking candy from a baby.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Johnny,
> >
> > I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you are
> > knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you wanted
> > to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some
> serious
> > studying.
> >
> > Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to test
> > preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will take
> about
> > a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its understanding
> it
> > all so you can pass the test.
> >
> > BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have to",
> which
> > is GR8.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
> >> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week and
> >> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab within
> >> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
> >> > Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> >> > Cell: +1.586.212.6107
> >> > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> > Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
> >> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
> >> > To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
> >> >
> >> > This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor, just
> a
> >> > personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back that
> the
> >> > CCIE
> >> > is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and another
> >> > person
> >> > responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree with the
> >> > person
> >> > who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a few
> >> > years the
> >> > CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will loose
> >> > their
> >> > stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
> >> > Microsoft
> >> > tried to do to save their program. They came out with the "Masters"
> >> > Program
> >> > and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect"
> Program.
> >> > Now
> >> > with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really feel
> >> > Cisco
> >> > will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my observation.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
> >> > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> > Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
> >> > Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue, the
> >> > format
> >> > won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
> >> > proctors.
> >> > This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in more
> >> > locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Watch this speace....
> >> >
> >> > 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> >> >
> >> >> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing the
> >> >> lab
> >> >> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can
> imagine
> >> > that
> >> >> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own CCIE
> >> >> 'floors'.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Mur
> >> >> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> >> >>
> >> >> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >> >> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
> >> >>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the future
> will
> >> >>> bring...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >> >>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> >> >>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >> >>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching v4.0
> >> >>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing locations
> >> >>>> worldwide.
> >> >>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new
> questions
> >> >>>> covering
> >> >>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new
> scenario-based
> >> >>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on troubleshooting of
> >> >>>> preconfigured
> >> >>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and pricing
> >> >>>> will
> >> >>>> remain
> >> >>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and the
> >> >>>> eight-hour lab
> >> >>>> at USD $1400.00
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue as
> >> >>>> well?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> James
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >> >>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> >> >>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >> >>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
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> > --
> > Narbik Kocharians
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