Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle

wow. So much for immediate needs. Looks like I'll be delaying my decision
for at least a month. Thanks for the info.

Charles Henson

                                                                                                                                      
  From: Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
                                                                                                                                      
  To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
                                                                                                                                      
  Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com, "'Kelvin Yeo'" <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>, "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com>, "'Durkin, Michael
              \(H USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com, "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'ron wilkerson'"
              <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>
                                                                                                                                      
  Date: 10/22/2009 11:26 AM
                                                                                                                                      
  Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
                                                                                                                                      

To quote the American comedy series Family Guy, visiting Barnes and
Noble last night was a "bigger buzz kill than Buzz Killington".

The Sales Agent initially indicated they had indeed received one of
the actual devices, and she went off to look for a manager. The
manager came out and indicated that they could not show me the unit!
They had not received training on it yet. I told him to go ahead and
bring it out and I would show him how it worked...no joy!

I notice they have updated their Web site now to indicate in store
demonstrations will be available Nov 30. Interesting, especially
considering that units start shipping Nov 22.

Most disappointing was the fact they no one there could answer any of
my questions about title availability. The assumption is that MOST
titles from the BandN website (including Cisco Press) will be
available, but I wanted some more specifics on exact availability of
the titles. Again, no joy.

So sorry to report this everyone. Here are some links that might help
as you decide:

Nook (BandN Device) Versus the Kindle 2:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/compare/

Sony Reader Touch Edition
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665921180

Read on an prosper.

On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote:

> Anthony,
> What did you think? I didn't have anything specific I was just
> more
> curious about your overall experience?
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>
> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com, "'Kelvin Yeo'"
<kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg
> >, "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com>, "'Durkin, Michael
> \(H USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>,
nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> , "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'ron wilkerson'"
> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>
>
> Date: 10/21/2009 04:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I sure will!
>
> Unicast me any specific questions you want asked. I have a growing
> list myself.
>
> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote:
>
>> Anthony,
>> Since Pauls hard drive is already saturated with this thread
>> would
>> you mind giving us your impressions later? a brief summary?
>>
>> Charles Henson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>
>> To: "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com>
>>
>> Cc: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
>> "'Kelvin Yeo'" <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>, "'Durkin, Michael
>> \(H USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>,
> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>> , "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'ron wilkerson'"
>> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: 10/21/2009 04:08 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Nook ships Nov 30.
>>
>> I am heading to B and N tonight to harass some poor employee tasked
>> with demonstrating it.
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Larry Hadrava wrote:
>>
>>> Charles - I saw that one as well as the Sony ereader as well. I was
>>> not sure
>>> when the nook was going to be actually available for order. I'm part
>>> of the
>>> gotta have it now generation!!!!
>>> I was going on the recommendations from the group. With that said, I
>>> ordered
>>> through Amazon so I can return within 30 days if needed;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com
>>> CCIE #12203 (R&S)
>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:55 PM
>>> To: Larry Hadrava
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Kelvin Yeo'; 'Durkin, Michael (H USA)';
>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Ronald Johns'; 'ron wilkerson'
>>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>>
>>> Larry,
>>> The "Nook" from B&N came out today. I'd check it out before
>>> committing to an order if I were you. Otherwise, enjoy it.
>>>
>>> Charles Henson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To: "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'Durkin, Michael \(H
>>> USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>, "'ron wilkerson'"
>>> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "'Kelvin Yeo'"
>>> <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: 10/21/2009 03:41 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys just cost me $279!!!!
>>> I'm a real tech junkie. Gotta feed the habit.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com
>>> CCIE #12203 (R&S)
>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Ronald Johns
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:59 PM
>>> To: Durkin, Michael (H USA); ron wilkerson; Kelvin Yeo
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>>
>>> I purchased around 8 Cisco Press books on my Kindle 2, and I thought
>>> it
>>> worked really well as an alternative to lugging around massive
>>> books. It's
>>> true that the diagrams and tables don't really look as good as they
>>> do in a
>>> printed book, but the trade off of having the form factor and ease
>>> of use
>>> of
>>> the kindle I thought was well worth it. I also noticed that the
>>> quality of
>>> the diagrams and tables varied from book to book. Some books, when
>>> you
>>> zoom
>>> into the diagram, the resolution and clarity was perfect and text
>>> was easy
>>> to read whereas in others, it was pixilated and the text in the
>>> diagrams
>>> was
>>> sometimes difficult to read. If I had to do it over, I would stick
>>> with
>>> purchasing the books with the Kindle even though they are pretty
>>> much the
>>> same street price as the printed books. Something else that really
>>> rocks
>>> with the Kindle 2 is the ability to search through all the books
>>> with the
>>> stroke of a button. I used this a lot to freshen up on certain
>>> technologies
>>> the last 2-!
>>> 3 weeks I was studying. Also, they just dropped the price again so
>>> they're
>>> a lot cheaper now compared to when I bought mine. Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Ron Johns
>>> CCIE#25612
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Durkin, Michael (H USA)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:56 PM
>>> To: ron wilkerson; Kelvin Yeo
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>>
>>> I have a Kindle, and I do have Cisco Press books on it. It is OK,
>>> and I
>>> do take it with me with me when I travel for the reasons you
>>> indicate.
>>>
>>> I would however say that it is very hard to read a technology book
>>> on
>>> the kindle as the screen size is small and network diagrams do not
>>> scale
>>> well, or are too small to read. There is a new Kindle out that has a
>>> MUCH bigger screen (with a corresponding increase in price tag) that
>>> should be better, but I don't own that version and I can't say for
>>> sure
>>> how well it works. It also has a portrait/landscape feature which
>>> would
>>> make it even better for reading some diagrams I suspect.
>>>
>>> The way the Kindle displays the diagrams is as an image and there
>>> isn't
>>> a scrolling screen, so you can't have the image half-way on the
>>> screen.
>>> It's either on the screen or not. A laptop/PC does a much better job
>>> of
>>> displaying diagrams as you can scroll part way down the page and
>>> expand
>>> the image if you need to. You can expand the image with a kindle,
>>> but
>>> only until it fills the screen and no more.
>>>
>>> I LOVE the Kindle, but am on the fence about using it for technical
>>> reading. I may try the newer model to see if it's any better. The
>>> Kindle
>>> has a-lot going for it as an e-reader, but I would caution you to
>>> think
>>> about the things I said for technical reading. You would be better
>>> served to buy a netbook and either download the CD's of the books
>>> you
>>> own or subscribe to an online technology book resource (like Safari)
>>> for
>>> your needs.
>>>
>>> If you want to know all the things I love about the kindle, em me
>>> offline and I will share that with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> ron wilkerson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:47 AM
>>> To: Kelvin Yeo
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle
>>>
>>> i'd spend that money on training material!!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Kelvin Yeo
>>> <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My apology for this OT.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was contemplating to purchase a kindle for my prep for the CCIE
>>> written.
>>>> So that I can study on the move without lugging a Cisco press or my
>>>> notebook. What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>>
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