I would LOVE to use the Kindle. Luckily it's now supported internationally,
but now I want to wait for the Kindle DX as I think 6" is to small. It fits
now very much text and you have to scroll through a lot of pages.
Until then I prefer my Sony eReader when I'm airborne and hardcopy when I'm
on the ground ;-)
-- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Kelly <kelly_at_cliffhanger.com> wrote: > How is it "off topic" to discuss a > method of STUDYING the ....TOPIC ...of > this list? > > Isn't this list about learning the > material that's needed to acquire the > Cisco Certification? > > > > > > > -- > > Quoting Roy Waterman (roy.waterman_at_gmail.com): > Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:03:05AM +0100 > > In the defence of this thread it is a lot less OT than many others > I've > seen. > After all it is concerned with maximising study time on the move. > > 2009/10/21 Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> > > > I sure will! > > > > Unicast me any specific questions you want asked. I have a growing > list > > myself. > > > > > > On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote: > > > > Anthony, > >> Since Pauls hard drive is already saturated with this thread > would > >> you mind giving us your impressions later? a brief summary? > >> > >> Charles Henson > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> > >> > >> To: "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com> > >> > >> Cc: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>, < > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, > >> "'Kelvin Yeo'" <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>, "'Durkin, Michael > >> \(H USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>, < > >> nobody_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'ron > >> wilkerson'" > >> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> > >> > >> Date: 10/21/2009 04:08 PM > >> > >> Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The Nook ships Nov 30. > >> > >> I am heading to B and N tonight to harass some poor employee > tasked > >> with demonstrating it. > >> > >> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Larry Hadrava wrote: > >> > >> Charles - I saw that one as well as the Sony ereader as well. I > was > >>> not sure > >>> when the nook was going to be actually available for order. I'm > part > >>> of the > >>> gotta have it now generation!!!! > >>> I was going on the recommendations from the group. With that > said, I > >>> ordered > >>> through Amazon so I can return within 30 days if needed;-) > >>> > >>> Thanks for the info. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -- > >>> Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com > >>> CCIE #12203 (R&S) > >>> Internetwork Expert, Inc. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto: > Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:55 PM > >>> To: Larry Hadrava > >>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Kelvin Yeo'; 'Durkin, Michael (H > USA)'; > >>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Ronald Johns'; 'ron wilkerson' > >>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >>> > >>> Larry, > >>> The "Nook" from B&N came out today. I'd check it out before > >>> committing to an order if I were you. Otherwise, enjoy it. > >>> > >>> Charles Henson > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: "Larry Hadrava" <larryh_at_ine.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To: "'Ronald Johns'" <rj686b_at_att.com>, "'Durkin, > Michael \(H > >>> USA\)'" <michael.durkin_at_siemens.com>, "'ron wilkerson'" > >>> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>, "'Kelvin Yeo'" > >>> <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Date: 10/21/2009 03:41 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> You guys just cost me $279!!!! > >>> I'm a real tech junkie. Gotta feed the habit. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -- > >>> Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com > >>> CCIE #12203 (R&S) > >>> Internetwork Expert, Inc. > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On > Behalf > >>> Of > >>> Ronald Johns > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:59 PM > >>> To: Durkin, Michael (H USA); ron wilkerson; Kelvin Yeo > >>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com > >>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >>> > >>> I purchased around 8 Cisco Press books on my Kindle 2, and I > thought > >>> it > >>> worked really well as an alternative to lugging around massive > >>> books. It's > >>> true that the diagrams and tables don't really look as good as > they > >>> do in a > >>> printed book, but the trade off of having the form factor and > ease > >>> of use > >>> of > >>> the kindle I thought was well worth it. I also noticed that the > >>> quality of > >>> the diagrams and tables varied from book to book. Some books, > when > >>> you > >>> zoom > >>> into the diagram, the resolution and clarity was perfect and > text > >>> was easy > >>> to read whereas in others, it was pixilated and the text in the > >>> diagrams > >>> was > >>> sometimes difficult to read. If I had to do it over, I would > stick > >>> with > >>> purchasing the books with the Kindle even though they are pretty > >>> much the > >>> same street price as the printed books. Something else that > really > >>> rocks > >>> with the Kindle 2 is the ability to search through all the books > >>> with the > >>> stroke of a button. I used this a lot to freshen up on certain > >>> technologies > >>> the last 2-! > >>> 3 weeks I was studying. Also, they just dropped the price again > so > >>> they're > >>> a lot cheaper now compared to when I bought mine. Hope this > helps. > >>> > >>> Ron Johns > >>> CCIE#25612 > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On > Behalf > >>> Of > >>> Durkin, Michael (H USA) > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:56 PM > >>> To: ron wilkerson; Kelvin Yeo > >>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com > >>> Subject: RE: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >>> > >>> I have a Kindle, and I do have Cisco Press books on it. It is > OK, > >>> and I > >>> do take it with me with me when I travel for the reasons you > indicate. > >>> > >>> I would however say that it is very hard to read a technology > book on > >>> the kindle as the screen size is small and network diagrams do > not > >>> scale > >>> well, or are too small to read. There is a new Kindle out that > has a > >>> MUCH bigger screen (with a corresponding increase in price tag) > that > >>> should be better, but I don't own that version and I can't say > for > >>> sure > >>> how well it works. It also has a portrait/landscape feature > which > >>> would > >>> make it even better for reading some diagrams I suspect. > >>> > >>> The way the Kindle displays the diagrams is as an image and > there > >>> isn't > >>> a scrolling screen, so you can't have the image half-way on the > >>> screen. > >>> It's either on the screen or not. A laptop/PC does a much better > job > >>> of > >>> displaying diagrams as you can scroll part way down the page and > >>> expand > >>> the image if you need to. You can expand the image with a > kindle, but > >>> only until it fills the screen and no more. > >>> > >>> I LOVE the Kindle, but am on the fence about using it for > technical > >>> reading. I may try the newer model to see if it's any better. > The > >>> Kindle > >>> has a-lot going for it as an e-reader, but I would caution you > to > >>> think > >>> about the things I said for technical reading. You would be > better > >>> served to buy a netbook and either download the CD's of the > books you > >>> own or subscribe to an online technology book resource (like > Safari) > >>> for > >>> your needs. > >>> > >>> If you want to know all the things I love about the kindle, em > me > >>> offline and I will share that with you. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On > Behalf > >>> Of > >>> ron wilkerson > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:47 AM > >>> To: Kelvin Yeo > >>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com > >>> Subject: Re: OT: Reading Cisco Press book via Kindle > >>> > >>> i'd spend that money on training material!! > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Kelvin Yeo > >>> <kelvinyeo24_at_yahoo.com.sg>wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Group, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My apology for this OT. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I was contemplating to purchase a kindle for my prep for the > CCIE > >>>> > >>> written. > >>> > >>>> So that I can study on the move without lugging a Cisco press > or my > >>>> notebook. 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