Re: Core technology definition / more switching

From: ALL From_NJ <all.from.nj_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:03:08 -0400

Many thanks Scott and Anthony for your responses.

Scott - great article ... many thanks for forwarding. This was, for the
most part, exactly what I was looking for. Many thanks again,

Andrew

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> Think basics...
>
> I interviewed Maurilio about a month ago for CLN, the depth of some of
> these things was part of what we talked about for everyone who is making
> themselves into a head-case! :)
>
> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-6083
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> ALL From_NJ wrote:
> > I actually have not found any sexy topics yet on any blueprint ... ;-)
> >
> > Agreed. However ... we were told that the new topics are not core.
> > What does this mean? Humm ...
> >
> > Concerning OER, I have basically come to the conclusion (after trying
> > to learn it) that is very extensive in it's configs / option s and
> > that it will either be presented in one of these two formats:
> >
> > 1) will be fully configured but not working in the tshooting section
> > or
> > 2) will be in the config section but will not be active ... just a
> > config exercise that the grading script will check you for.
> >
> > Your thoughts?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
> > <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >
> > There "may be" some troubleshooting for switches still in the config
> > section.
> >
> > When you look at "nothing else depends on them" do you think that
> MPLS
> > can work without a good L2/L3 network? Just like in the v3
> blueprint,
> > networks are still layered in nature and important to solve things
> for
> > the upper parts to work.
> >
> > The thing is that with the "variety" of stuff in the v4 lab, each lab
> > may well have different requirements and perspectives about what
> > is "core".
> >
> > Keep in mind that not all of the new sexy topics will appear on every
> > single lab. That doesn't help much in the preparation, but it
> > certainly
> > helps with how bad any single exam may appear! ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > ALL From_NJ wrote:
> > > Hey team,
> > >
> > > This is buggin me a little tonight and figured I would 'ask the
> > experts' ...
> > > buggin me especially with the recent emails about the latest v4
> lab.
> > >
> > > I believe a core technology is defined as one that affects all
> > others, or
> > > one that must be set up first. In other words, this technology
> > must be
> > > working before we can attempt other configs. Example:
> > >
> > > Routing and route filtering. Obviously routing is core, and the
> > filtering
> > > might be considered a non-core tech.
> > >
> > > Now ... question related to new topic. If all of these are
> > non-core, can we
> > > assume nothing else depends on them? Example might be MPLS and
> > route
> > > filtering or tagging at remote ends. You cannot tag at remote
> > ends if the
> > > routes were not received.
> > >
> > > Team - I want to make sure my time is spent wisely and
> > accordingly to the
> > > core / non-core.
> > >
> > > OER / PFR has me worried a little as this can affect routing ...
> > and we know
> > > all the problems that can / will occur when routing changes on
> > us. The zone
> > > based fw thing seems like a non-core tech ... hopefully only
> > worth 0.25
> > > points (wishful thinking).
> > >
> > > Anthony, I think you are the one with the expanded blueprint.
> > Is your
> > > 'expanded blueprint' organized in core / non-core format?
> > >
> > > Lastly, with no switches in the tshooting section, can we assume
> > there would
> > > be additional switching stuff in the config section? I know about
> > > assumptions ... forgive the way I ask this question please.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Lee Lissitz
> > all.from.nj_at_gmail.com <mailto:all.from.nj_at_gmail.com>
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