RE: Rent my CCIE

Yeah I think he's the one who had the "official" turn yourself in program
with no penalties. Yeah, lots of cred there.

But, the example given there is an extreme example of over-obvious rule
breaking. That isn't the typical under-the-radar stuff that Cisco rarely
picks up on.

tv

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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ricardo Lowe
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:02 AM
To: nrafia_at_gmail.com; smorris_at_ine.com
Cc: ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com; scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Rent my CCIE

  Actually, Emmanuel Conde has an entry in his blog where
Monica Cojocneanu at Cisco indicates that one such partner was deauthorized
and two CCIEs lost their certification as a result of this.

http://www.ccieflyer.com/2009-June-Monica-Cojocneanu.php

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> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:44:25 +0300
> Subject: Re: Rent my CCIE
> From: nrafia_at_gmail.com
> To: smorris_at_ine.com
> CC: ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com; scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>
> is there any single example of deauthorized partner, regarding this issue?
I
> think it will not be.
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
> > According to Cisco's notes, the CCIE. While it would make much more
> > sense to punish the partner, there's a little thing called $$$
> > involved. And amazingly the rules are not set out there to punish the
> > real perpatrators because they still bring $$ in.
> >
> > Go figure.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > Cisco League wrote:
> > > Swift action against whom? CCIE or the partner company?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
> > > scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Frog, please accept my sincere apologies if memory is failing me
here,
> > but
> > >> wasn't it you who said he was going to open a support case with Cisco
to
> > get
> > >> a definitive answer on this subject and then post back to the group?
I
> > know
> > >> that someone did a handful of months back but then did not, in fact,
> > follow
> > >> up with any results. I attributed that to the circulation around
that
> > same
> > >> time of an article where Cisco discussed stripping the digits of
anyone
> > >> knowingly engaging in this sort of arrangement - without regard for
any
> > >> border considerations.
> > >>
> > >> If anyone has direct knowledge of any individual or reseller cheating
> > the
> > >> system in this way, you are highly encouraged to report it to the
same
> > >> e-mail address that you report NDA violations to (tipline_at_cisco.com).
> > >> Cisco's legal team/brand protection group *will* take swift and
> > decisive
> > >> action.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:49 , Rick Mur wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Even in your own country it's totally illegal and you will loose
your
> > >>
> > >>> digits!!
> > >>> You have to work for a partner to use your CCIE for their partner
> > status.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Rick Mur
> > >>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> > >>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > >>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > >>>
> > >>> On 18 okt 2009, at 06:14, Radioactive Frog wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Cross boarder deal is not allowed anymore - in other words you can
> > rent
> > >>>
> > >>>> your
> > >>>> cert within the country where you are living but you can't rent it
out
> > to
> > >>>> any other country.
> > >>>> Of course if you have dual-citizenship you can ! <-- Exception
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well done Cisco!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -frog
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Iwan Hoogendoorn
<iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> JC,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Why do you want to risk loosing your number doing this?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> > >>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> > >>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > >>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <jctracender_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Team:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I am looking forward to rent my ccie to a cisco partner, if you
are
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> interested
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> please unicast me @ jctracender at gmail .com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> BR
> > >>>>>> /JC
> > >>>>>> CCIE #Undisclosed (RS)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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