Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?

So they sold out or are selling out the ccie integrity? We all knew it
was coming when a ccie did not have to touch equipment any more. So
what is the ccie going to be in the future? A help desk or noc
certification? We all know the testing centers are not capable of
keeping an NDA since they have not been able to do so yet. How did 16
hours of hands-on configuration get reduced to 5.5 hours in the first
place?

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Evan Weston <evan_weston_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> Makes me think of the King of Kong. It shouldn't count unless you get your
> high score at Cisco's house on Cisco's machine IMO.
>
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> Cc: Anthony Sequeira; Roy Waterman; Divin Mathew John; Nathan Richie;
> Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Iwan Hoogendoorn; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?
>
> I personally hope that nothing of the sort ever comes to pass. Part
> of the mystique of a CCIE involves that whole idea of having flown to
> some far off land, done battle, and emerged victorious. That's
> someone who's serious about their craft and serious about proving
> their mettle. Popping off to the nearest PearsonVue test center on a
> day off or over a weekend somehow lacks dramatic effect. Anybody
> could do that enough times to eventually pass. And when every minimum-
> wage 17-year-old on the local Best Buy Geek Squad is sporting CCIE
> apparel, what will be the residual value of holding the cert?
>
> But probably the bean counters within Cisco will eventually bring
> something like this about. It would be my hope that they at least
> keep things in-house at major Cisco offices. Otherwise, it's
> inevitable that test centers will be easily compromised and people
> will be buying digits (think 100,000+ type of digits within a year or
> two) on the open market.
>
> I personally question whether or not I'd bother recertifying if that
> were to be where the program was taken. I'd simply tell interviewers
> that I earned the cert back in the day when you actually had to do
> exactly that...
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:37 , Farrukh Haroon wrote:
>
>> I can see that the Cisco dream of the 'ccie lab offered in a pearson
>> center'
>> about to become true :), these changes seem to be inline with that
>> 'rumor'.....
>>
>> Regards
>> Farrukh
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Anthony Sequeira
>> <asequeira_at_ine.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah - Cisco has come full circle. . .
>>>
>>> In the two day lab format you had a troubleshooting section, and
>>> you were
>>> forced to diagram (the diagrams were worth a point or two).
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Roy Waterman wrote:
>>>
>>> With the documentation being all web-based, there is an even
>>> greater need
>>>> to
>>>> draw your own diagrams in my view...Id know id hate to have to
>>>> scroll back
>>>> and forth between the diagrams & the task in question.
>>>>
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