Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

at least it will make cert lab guys work more difficult... :)
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> The desire for topologies like that is for multiple reasons...
>
> 1. each trouble ticket/problem will not be dependent on others (e.g.
> separate areas/devices where things can still be messed up, but achieve
> partial success)
> 2. No switches, so makes for more festive results!
> 3. Bought all those nice new big monitors and need to test out the
> resolution capabilities with full screen topology diagrams. Too much
> white-space was deemed hazardous to the eyes!
> 4. Some semblance of "real world" being seen in the scenarios given
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> ;)
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> Antonio Soares wrote:
> > You are absolutely correct. But i think that must be some other purposes
> behind the 20-30 routers network... For example, they might
> > ask you to troubleshoot an issue without saying explicitly in what router
> the problem must be corrected...
> >
> > But we will need to wait to see.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
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> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> > amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: markom_at_gmail.com [mailto:markom_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko
> Milivojevic
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2009 16:34
> > To: Antonio Soares
> > Cc: Larry Hadrava; Johnny B CCIE; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 14:53, Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It would be interesting to know how vendors will address this. Since
> >> IOU will not be available for 360 and non-360 vendors, i would say
> >> dynamips will be more important than ever. But it won't be easy to
> design stable topologies with up to 20-30 routers as Maurilio
> >>
> > said.
> >
> > Having been involved in some of this development for one of the vendors,
> I can tell you that virtual or not, it doesn't really
> > matter.
> > Here is why:
> >
> > 1. Those are network problems on routers utilizing IOS. Therefore, they
> should all be about the same thing. Virtual environment only
> > lowers cost for Cisco, it does not change *anything* for candidates!
> > Don't forget that.
> >
> > 2. 30 routers network is big and complex. However, Maurilio mentioned
> that problems would not be stacked (depend on each other).
> > Hence, we are talking about several "small" and isolated issues on the
> same network. This can well be emulated on vendor racks
> > containing some 12 routers and 4 switches. Using smart thinking, this
> number of devices can easily be multiplied to reach the size
> > of Cisco's virtual network.
> >
> > 3. Having problems "stacked", i.e. interdependent, while not 100%
> relevant for the lab, can teach candidates to troubleshoot well
> > and deep and that's what matters! Nuff said :-)
> >
> > Now, turn to vendors and look who comes up with the best material :-).
> > I know that one has pretty good things for v4.
> >
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