RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

It would be interesting to know how vendors will address this. Since IOU will not be available for 360 and non-360 vendors, i would
say dynamips will be more important than ever. But it won't be easy to design stable topologies with up to 20-30 routers as Maurilio
said.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hadrava
Sent: quinta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2009 23:24
To: 'Johnny B CCIE'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

Yes. This was stated in the presentation. If you missed it let Brad know - he can shoot you the link.

Thanks

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Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com
CCIE #12203 (R&S)
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Johnny B CCIE
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:46 PM
To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
You sure?
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> Not sure about access to iou and 360. Rick?
>
>
>
> No, the catalyst code will not run on iou.
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
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> From: jose manzano [mailto:josermanzano_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>    It would be nice to have access to the IOU Software, but Dynamips / 
> Dynagen will do everything i need on the router side for now as I can 
> run 12.4 code on it.
>
>    Do students in the Cisco 360 Prrogram get access to the IOU 
> software ?
>
>    Also, will the IOU software run Catalyst Code as well ?
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> wrote:
>
> That's pretty much about right. I think some older versions of IOU 
> were leaked (a student in one of our classes last year mentioned about 
> having an older flavor), but I havenb t seen any newer versions.
>
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
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>
> From: markom_at_gmail.com [mailto:markom_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko 
> Milivojevic
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:48 AM
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: Brad Ellis; Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Justin Mitchell; 
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie; Nadeem Rafi
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> I suppose that the only way is to get into Advanced Services...
>
> (any Cisco recruiters here? :-) )
>
> --
> Marko
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>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:42, Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> wrote:
>> How can we get access to IOU ? The idea of having some many devices 
>> on
> an average laptop is fantastic. I heard somewhere that IOU
>> only runs special IOS images. Is this true ?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Brad Ellis
>> Sent: quarta-feira, 7 de Outubro de 2009 22:42
>> To: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com; Justin Mitchell
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie; Nadeem Rafi
>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>
>> IOU is much more stable and more efficient versus dynamips and GNS3.
> On a single server (dual-core processor, 4gb memory, etc,
>> nothing super fancy), IOU can handle over 100+ devices and is still
> very stable (according to Maurilio). While the devices will be
>> running on IOU, the lab candidate will not have access to the IOU
> server itself, just the network devices running in IOU - so it
>> won't really make a difference to the lab candidate - routers as
> usual!
>>
>> There's a lot more virtualization coming down the pipe from Cisco w/
> regards to the CCIE lab. It will be interesting to watch the
>> changes over the next few years.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brad Ellis
>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> CCSI# 30482
>> CEO / President
>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:31 PM
>> To: Justin Mitchell
>> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>
>> I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was 
>> just
> curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many
>> of us are used to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows
> and won't know the difference........until it crashes.... :)
>>
>> Charles Henson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> B From: B  B  B  Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> B To: B  B  B  B  Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>
>>
>>
>> B Cc: B  B  B  B  Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
>> Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com, B  B  B  B  
>> B  B  B Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> B Date: B  B  B  10/07/2009 03:59 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> B Subject: B  B Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen. GNS3
> is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier
>> to use.
>> Dynamips is a hardware emulator.
>>
>> Justin G. Mitchell
>> e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, B <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>>> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
>>>
>>> Does IOU = GNS3?
>>>
>>> Charles Henson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> B From: B  B  B  "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>
>>> B To: B  B  B  B  "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>> B Cc: B  B  B  B  "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>
>>> B Date: B  B  B  10/07/2009 12:21 PM
>>>
>>> B Subject: B  B RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=405203
> 77
>>> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Brad Ellis
>>>
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>
>>> CEO / President
>>>
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>
>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>
>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
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>>> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
>>> To: Brad Ellis
>>> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nathan.
>>>
>>> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be 
>>> comprised of three different separate sections:
>>>
>>> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
>>> Troubleshooting
>>> Configuration
>>>
>>> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab exam.
>> In
>>> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam.
> One
>>> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event 
>>> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual 
>>> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam
> will
>>> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam
> team
>>> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
>>> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>> Cool, thanks Brad
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
>>> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>> Nathan,
>>>
>>> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio 
>>> did confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score 
>>> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to hear 
>>> people's feedback... :)
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>>> Nathan Richie
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of the 
>>> version 4 lab? B I have heard and read that you will need 80 points, 
>>> but I was wondering if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will 
>>> provide any more detail than that.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nathan Richie
>>>
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