Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

He presented the information in a more or less public forum. Doesn't
anyone who listened to it have the same decoder ring.
Internetworkexpert just had a guy pass who used their gray materials
after 2 months of final study and also scored in the 50's on his mock
labs.The gray decoder ring is working fine. Maybe Scott can work a
deal for Brad and help him get one.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Things at Cisco have changed over the past couple years. The
> certification group and the learning development group are under the
> same GM at Cisco. You, nor any other unauthorized training company have
> access to the same resources that the learning development group at
> Cisco has. The same learning development group that is responsible for
> the Cisco 360 Learning Program. The webinar we did was put on in
> conjunction with the CCIE R&S certification program manager, Maurilio -
> AKA, the GUY who writes the lab exam! He answered Q&A from folks and
> gave insight into the new exam that you could not find anywhere else. If
> you need a link to the recording, I'll be happy to send it to you.
>
> To sum it up in a way you'll understand: the decoder ring the
> certification team is using is aligned with the decoder ring the Cisco
> 360 Learning Program is using. Your grey decoder ring isn't! :)
>
> -Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:37 AM
> To: Nadeem Rafi
> Cc: Brad Ellis; Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Cisco certification; Rick
> Smith (smithr)
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> And amazingly, there isn't an "inside track" on things unless one is
> only beginning to pay attention or talk to people. ;)
>
> The funny thing is that troubleshooting is both a process and an art
> form. Whether you are doing it on 50 devices or on 5 devices doesn't
> change the art/process. It just changes your scalability and your
> difficulty with creating materials that are pseudo-independent trouble
> tickets (e.g. easier).
>
> Not needing to get into vendor wars about who is better at stuff, but
> rest assured that there isn't an inside track that the rest of the world
> is clueless about. But remember, as seen on TV, if you order in the
> next 20 minutes only, you can get not one but TWO of the semi-secret
> message decoder rings.... but act now! (I got my decoder ring from
> Captain Crunch when I was 10 years old, but I'm sure Brad may have the
> inside track on that!)
>
> In the end, the blueprint is the same. And you are relying on people
> interpretation and skill level to teach to the blueprint and the thought
> process. Evaluate your options, make your choices... If you see a
> mirror, run.
>
>
>
>
> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
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>
> evil_at_ine.com
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Nadeem Rafi wrote:
>> Brad thanks for you suggestion but who will pay this 360 "huge money".
> If
>> you can find out this solution it will be great help :) May be 360 is
> good
>> but money wise INE is best :)
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Very correct Nadeem. Layer 2 troubleshooting will be in the
>>> configuration portion of the new lab exam (per Maurilio). The
>>> troubleshooting portion of the new exam will focus on Layer 3 and
> above
>>> issues. The Cisco 360 developers already have the inside track on
> this.
>>> If you're looking to study for the new V4 lab exam, I'd really
> suggest
>>> using Cisco 360 (even if you don't purchase it from CCBOOTCAMP and
> you
>>> go to a different 360 provider). One of the huge goals of the Cisco
> 360
>>> Learning Program is stream-lining the learning process, even more so
> for
>>> V4, in an effort to remove 6 months or so from other study methods
>>> (check the slides in the preso we did that Rick presented). I've cc'd
>>> Rick on this email, and you are more than welcome to contact him as
> well
>>> with any direct questions regarding Cisco 360's learning/training
>>> methodology.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
>>> Nadeem Rafi
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:25 AM
>>> To: Anthony Sequeira
>>> Cc: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Cisco certification
>>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>
>>> Hi anthony i will recommend you to watch ccbootcamp video this time
>>> :)Murilio
>>> said clearly that there will be no layer two trouble tickets in
> trouble
>>> shooting section. Second one trouble ticket will not affect any other
>>> trouble ticket, this is main reason to have so many routers to make
>>> trouble
>>> tickets independent of each other.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> While we *only* feature 13 devices in our Troubleshooting materials,
>>>>
>>> we
>>>
>>>> ensure the candidate is tested at all possible levels. For example,
> in
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> new 6-Day R&S Bootcamp, Trouble Tickets encompass issues like Layer
> 2,
>>>>
>>> Layer
>>>
>>>> 3 IGP Routing, Layer 3 EGP Routing, and Multicast troubleshooting.
>>>>
>>>> Also remember, just because Cisco might present 20 devices in the
>>>>
>>> overall
>>>
>>>> section - the Trouble Tickets will certainly not incorporate all of
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> devices at once. In fact, with students receiving 10 to 12 Trouble
>>>>
>>> Tickets,
>>>
>>>> it is quite clear that these are issues that are rather isolated
>>>>
>>> throughout
>>>
>>>> the topology.
>>>>
>>>> Also worth mention is the fact that Layer 2/3 switch troubleshooting
>>>>
>>> must
>>>
>>>> still be isolated to the Configuration section now since the
> emulator
>>>>
>>> does
>>>
>>>> not support switches.
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>
>>>> Test your Core Knowledge today!
>>>> Q: What PIM mode was invented by Cisco for Auto-RP functionality?
>>>> A: PIM SParse-Dense-Mode
>>>> More Info:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipmulti/configuration/guide/imc_tech
>>> _oview_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html#wp1054989
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> WOW. So if that is the case, it makes things interesting. How do
>>>>
>>> potential
>>>
>>>>> candidates emulate that environment for studies? Realistically how
>>>>>
>>> far
>>>
>>>>> down
>>>>> could you scale it and still get the same benefit for the
>>>>>
>>> troubleshooting
>>>
>>>>> section? How do vendors like IE, IPE, CCBootcamp, etc. come up with
>>>>> workbooks and training that emulates that? Again, we're a bit ahead
>>>>>
>>> of the
>>>
>>>>> game here.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also pushed 20 devices on dynamips with an older dual 3.2 HP
>>>>>
>>> server
>>>
>>>>> and 6gb of memory that I had available for testing. For the fun of
>>>>>
>>> it, I
>>>
>>>>> have reached out this morning to the server team to ask if I can
>>>>>
>>> "borrow"
>>>
>>>>> one of their new fat servers for a day to see how far I can push
>>>>>
>>> dynamips.
>>>
>>>>> 8 way cores with 64gb of memory are the norm. It's not something
>>>>>
>>> every
>>>
>>>>> candidate can pick up at the pawn shop but I just want to see how
> far
>>>>> dynamips will go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone "pushed" dynamips before to see what kind of cap it may
> or
>>>>>
>>> may
>>>
>>>>> not have?
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Henson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "'Peter Dsouza \(petdsouz\)'" <petdsouz_at_cisco.com>, <
>>>>> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, <
>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'"
> <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>,
>>>>> "'Nathan
>>>>> Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>, <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>,
>>>>> "'Nadeem Rafi'" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 10/08/2009 12:37 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> There is talk that the troubleshooting portion of the lab could
>>>>>
>>> consist of
>>>
>>>>> up to 30 routers for a given troubleshooting lab. I would like to
>>>>>
>>> see
>>>
>>>>> anyone get 30 routers running stable on their workstation with
>>>>>
>>> Dynamips
>>>
>>>>> supporting the latest 12.4T code and the right memory requirements.
>>>>>
>>> I can
>>>
>>>>> get 20 routers on my 8 core 16 GB memory no problem but 30 is
> pushing
>>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>> sure. And how many people have a system like that sitting around.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the same system running IOU I could probably run close to 100
>>>>>
>>> routers
>>>
>>>>> without the blink of an eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Peter Dsouza (petdsouz) [mailto:petdsouz_at_cisco.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:08 AM
>>>>> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Tyson Scott
>>>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Justin Mitchell; Nathan
>>>>>
>>> Richie;
>>>
>>>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no need to get your hands on IOU if you've Dynamips. Its
>>>>>
>>> just
>>>
>>>>> an internal Cisco router emulator. Supported on Linux and Sun,
>>>>>
>>> suports
>>>
>>>>> Ethernet (no FE or GE), ATM and serial interfaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
>>>>>
>>> Of
>>>
>>>>> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:23 AM
>>>>> To: Tyson Scott
>>>>> Cc: 'Brad Ellis'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Justin Mitchell';
> 'Nathan
>>>>> Richie'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Nadeem Rafi'
>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the education everyone. Not being a Cisco insider I had
>>>>> always
>>>>> assumed they developed and played on virtual gear but didn't know
> the
>>>>> name
>>>>> or capability. Yeah, I assumed we would not have direct access to
>>>>> anything
>>>>> except terminals so it would be transparent to us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now where do we get the IOU ISO? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Henson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'"
>>>>> <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
>>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nathan Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
>>>>>
>>>>> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nadeem Rafi'"
>>>>> <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 10/07/2009 07:19 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles,
>>>>>
>>>>> IOU is actually more stable than dynamips but from your perspective
>>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>>> won't know the difference as you will just have terminal access to
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> routers as you would other devices in the lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> IOU has been around for a long time. Originally it was only
>>>>>
>>> supported
>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>> SUN workstations with a SPARC processor but within the last few
> years
>>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>> migrated to mostly Linux and was always a very good tool when I
>>>>>
>>> worked
>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>> Advanced Services.
>>>>>
>>>>> IOU has always been a tightly kept secret of Cisco's. Not sure if
>>>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>> release it to learning partners as we were never allowed to show it
>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>> our
>>>>> customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to get my hands on it as it is better than dynamips
> and
>>>>> more
>>>>> efficient. But thank heavens for dynamips right for the rest of
> us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>> Cell: +1.248.504.7309
>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
>>>>>
>>> Of
>>>
>>>>> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:31 PM
>>>>> To: Justin Mitchell
>>>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
>>>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was
>>>>>
>>> just
>>>
>>>>> curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many of us
> are
>>>>> used
>>>>> to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows and won't
> know
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> difference........until it crashes.... :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Henson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
>>>>>
>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
>>>
>>>>> Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
>>>>> Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 10/07/2009 03:59 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen.
> GNS3
>>>>> is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier to
> use.
>>>>> Dynamips is a hardware emulator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin G. Mitchell
>>>>> e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does IOU = GNS3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles Henson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: 10/07/2009 12:21 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
> https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=40520377
>>>
>>>>>> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CEO / President
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>>>>
>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
>>>>>> To: Brad Ellis
>>>>>> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be
>>>>>> comprised of three different separate sections:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
>>>>>> Troubleshooting
>>>>>> Configuration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab
> exam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> In
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam.
>>>>>>
>>> One
>>>
>>>>>> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event
>>>>>> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual
>>>>>> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam
>>>>>>
>>> will
>>>
>>>>>> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam
>>>>>>
>>> team
>>>
>>>>>> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>>>> CEO / President
>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
>>>>>> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool, thanks Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio
>>>>>>
>>> did
>>>
>>>>>> confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score
>>>>>> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to
> hear
>>>>>> people's feedback... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>>>> CEO / President
>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>> CCIE Webinar: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/cciewebex.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Richie
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
>>>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of
> the
>>>>>> version 4
>>>>>> lab? I have heard and read that you will need 80 points, but I
> was
>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>> if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will provide any more
> detail
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Richie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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