RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

Peter,

There is talk that the troubleshooting portion of the lab could consist of
up to 30 routers for a given troubleshooting lab. I would like to see
anyone get 30 routers running stable on their workstation with Dynamips
supporting the latest 12.4T code and the right memory requirements. I can
get 20 routers on my 8 core 16 GB memory no problem but 30 is pushing it for
sure. And how many people have a system like that sitting around.

On the same system running IOU I could probably run close to 100 routers
without the blink of an eye.

Regards,
 
Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Cell: +1.248.504.7309
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dsouza (petdsouz) [mailto:petdsouz_at_cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:08 AM
To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Tyson Scott
Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Justin Mitchell; Nathan Richie;
nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

There is no need to get your hands on IOU if you've Dynamips. Its just
an internal Cisco router emulator. Supported on Linux and Sun, suports
Ethernet (no FE or GE), ATM and serial interfaces.

cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:23 AM
To: Tyson Scott
Cc: 'Brad Ellis'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; 'Justin Mitchell'; 'Nathan
Richie'; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; 'Nadeem Rafi'
Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

Thanks for the education everyone. Not being a Cisco insider I had
always
assumed they developed and played on virtual gear but didn't know the
name
or capability. Yeah, I assumed we would not have direct access to
anything
except terminals so it would be transparent to us.

Now where do we get the IOU ISO? :)

Charles Henson

  From: "Tyson Scott" <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>

  To: <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>, "'Justin Mitchell'"
<jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
 

  Cc: "'Brad Ellis'" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nathan Richie'" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,

              <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>, "'Nadeem Rafi'"
<nrafia_at_gmail.com>

  Date: 10/07/2009 07:19 PM

  Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring

Charles,

IOU is actually more stable than dynamips but from your perspective you
won't know the difference as you will just have terminal access to the
routers as you would other devices in the lab.

IOU has been around for a long time. Originally it was only supported
on
SUN workstations with a SPARC processor but within the last few years it
has
migrated to mostly Linux and was always a very good tool when I worked
for
Advanced Services.

IOU has always been a tightly kept secret of Cisco's. Not sure if they
will
release it to learning partners as we were never allowed to show it to
our
customers.

I would love to get my hands on it as it is better than dynamips and
more
efficient. But thank heavens for dynamips right for the rest of us.

Regards,

Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.

Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
Cell: +1.248.504.7309
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:31 PM
To: Justin Mitchell
Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was just
curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many of us are
used
to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows and won't know the
difference........until it crashes.... :)

Charles Henson

  From: Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>

  To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com

  Cc: Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
              Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>

  Date: 10/07/2009 03:59 PM

  Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen. GNS3
is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier to use.
Dynamips is a hardware emulator.

Justin G. Mitchell
e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
>
> Does IOU = GNS3?
>
> Charles Henson
>
>
>
>
> From: "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>
> To: "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>
> Cc: "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>
> Date: 10/07/2009 12:21 PM
>
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Right here:
>
>
>
>
https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=40520377
> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Brad Ellis
>
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>
> CCSI# 30482
>
> CEO / President
>
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>
> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>
> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
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> International: +1-702-968-5100
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> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
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> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
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> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
>
>
>
> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
> To: Brad Ellis
> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
>
>
> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
wrote:
>
> Nathan.
>
> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be
> comprised of three different separate sections:
>
> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
> Troubleshooting
> Configuration
>
> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab exam.
In
> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam. One
> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event
> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual
> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam will
> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam team
> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
>
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> International: +1-702-968-5100
> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Cool, thanks Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Nathan,
>
> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio did
> confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score
> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to hear
> people's feedback... :)
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> International: +1-702-968-5100
> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> CCIE Webinar: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/cciewebex.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Nathan Richie
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of the
> version 4
> lab? I have heard and read that you will need 80 points, but I was
> wondering
> if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will provide any more detail
> than
> that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Richie
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
>
Received on Thu Oct 08 2009 - 01:34:28 ART