Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint

Who said anything about ground-up build out? (And actually, if you
grind it up, wouldn't that require spitting it out rather than building
it out? (grin))

Don't assume anything.

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Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com wrote:
> Some of this is actually serving my point. How deep can you get with a
> ground up build out of a lab in 5.5 hours? Sure. It's the CCIE exam.
> ANYTHING GOES. But I'm very curious how this will work out. Looking forward
> to hearing feedback (non-NDA of course) from late Octobers first victims.
> I'm not even scheduling a lab for V4 until I hear back from some survivors
> (passed or not) on how it was.
>
> Charles
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> From: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
>
> To: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>
> Cc: Christopher Copley <copley.chris_at_gmail.com>, michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>,
> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com, ALL From_NJ <all.from.nj_at_gmail.com>, abderrahim sadki <a_sadki1_at_hotmail.com>,
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com, iwan_at_ipexpert.com, jastorino_at_ipexpert.com, majonestx_at_gmail.com, Marko Milivojevic
> <markom_at_markom.info>, netwkengr_at_gmail.com, nobody_at_groupstudy.com, smorris_at_ine.com
>
> Date: 09/14/2009 02:40 PM
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> Subject: Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint
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> Ummm...
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> Unless you fail...
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> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Don't worry if you have done the right thing during your studies/Prep,
> you will pass with no problems, it will be ridiculously easy.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Christopher Copley <
> copley.chris_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> This new trouble shoot section just made me think. Is it only going to
> be just trouble shooting IOS issues, or will they make you trouble shoot
> physical issue as well (i.e. disconnected cables, broken serial pins,
> etc). I am not 100% sure, but if my memory serves me I think that a
> CCIE friend of mine that passed the 2 day lab, said that they would make
> you trouble shoot physical issues as well.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM, michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> My wife and I often say to each other we wish Cisco would bring back
> the two day lab. Yes, it would be a bit more painful to go through
> for the student, a bit more painful for the proctor to grade and
> participate in, but I don't think there'd be much discussion that the
> candidate knew what they were talking about.
>
> This new troubleshooting portion just doesn't have the same glamour as
> the old test ;)
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> I think it's funny how this thread is pretty clear that with the
> breadth of
> features and functions you could be tested on and the new timeline
> you have
> given the troubleshooting portion that the "depth" of each area will
> be
> "basic". I agree that there is so much to cover and not enough time
> to pack
> it all in to one 8 hour test. I also agree that anyone passing the
> 4.0 lab
> still should be respected. But you have to admit the irony of a CCIE
> (EXPERT) groupstudy lab discussion pointing out the "basic" depth of
> features and technologies.
>
> Anyone for bringing back the two day lab? :) I kid I kid... Let me
> pass
> first....
>
> Charles Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> markom_at_markom.info>, abderrahim sadki <a_sadki1_at_hotmail.com>,
> netwkengr_at_gmail.com, darby.weaver_at_gmail.com, smorris_at_ine.com, majonestx_at_gmail.com,
> iwan_at_ipexpert.com,
> copley.chris_at_gmail.com, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>
> Date: 09/14/2009 11:52 AM
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> Subject: Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint
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> Things get even more fun when you add / combine / cloud / muddy up
> the
> waters by including port security and dot1x ...
>
> lol ...
>
> Yep, not much here. "nothing to see folks, move along"
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > hahahaha they should add some more
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom_at_markom.info
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:10, abderrahim sadki <
> a_sadki1_at_hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have a silly question.
> > > >
> > > > should we focus our studies according to the blueprint ? As
> when I
> > > looked
> > > > at it , I don' t see much of layer 2 technology for example.
> > >
> > > If we exclude:
> > >
> > > 1.00 Implement Layer 2 Technologies
> > >
> > > 1.10 Implement Spanning Tree Protocol (STP)
> > > (a) 802.1d
> > > (b) 802.1w
> > > (c) 801.1s
> > > (d) Loop guard
> > > (e) Root guard
> > > (f) Bridge protocol data unit (BPDU) guard
> > > (g) Storm control
> > > (h) Unicast flooding
> > > (i) Port roles, failure propagation, and loop guard operation
> > >
> > > 1.20 Implement VLAN and VLAN Trunking Protocol (VTP)
> > >
> > > 1.30 Implement trunk and trunk protocols, EtherChannel, and
> > load-balance
> > >
> > > 1.40 Implement Ethernet technologies
> > > (a) Speed and duplex
> > > (b) Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, and Gigabit Ethernet
> > > (c) PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE)
> > >
> > > 1.50 Implement Switched Port Analyzer (SPAN), Remote Switched
> Port
> > > Analyzer (RSPAN), and flow control
> > >
> > > 1.60 Implement Frame Relay
> > > (a) Local Management Interface (LMI)
> > > (b) Traffic shaping
> > > (c) Full mesh
> > > (d) Hub and spoke
> > > (e) Discard eligible (DE)
> > >
> > > 1.70 Implement High-Level Data Link Control (HDLC) and PPP
> > >
> > >
> > > you are quite right - there are not that many left :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marko
> > > CCIE #18427 (SP)
> > > My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
> > >
> >
> >
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