Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint

This new trouble shoot section just made me think. Is it only going to be
just trouble shooting IOS issues, or will they make you trouble shoot
physical issue as well (i.e. disconnected cables, broken serial pins, etc).
  I am not 100% sure, but if my memory serves me I think that a CCIE friend
of mine that passed the 2 day lab, said that they would make you trouble
shoot physical issues as well.
Any thoughts?

Chris

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM, michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> My wife and I often say to each other we wish Cisco would bring back the
> two day lab. Yes, it would be a bit more painful to go through for the
> student, a bit more painful for the proctor to grade and participate in, but
> I don't think there'd be much discussion that the candidate knew what they
> were talking about.
>
> This new troubleshooting portion just doesn't have the same glamour as the
> old test ;)
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's funny how this thread is pretty clear that with the breadth
>> of
>> features and functions you could be tested on and the new timeline you
>> have
>> given the troubleshooting portion that the "depth" of each area will be
>> "basic". I agree that there is so much to cover and not enough time to
>> pack
>> it all in to one 8 hour test. I also agree that anyone passing the 4.0 lab
>> still should be respected. But you have to admit the irony of a CCIE
>> (EXPERT) groupstudy lab discussion pointing out the "basic" depth of
>> features and technologies.
>>
>> Anyone for bringing back the two day lab? :) I kid I kid... Let me pass
>> first....
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ALL From_NJ <all.from.nj_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> To: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info>, abderrahim sadki <
>> a_sadki1_at_hotmail.com>, netwkengr_at_gmail.com,
>> jastorino_at_ipexpert.com, darby.weaver_at_gmail.com,
>> smorris_at_ine.com, majonestx_at_gmail.com, iwan_at_ipexpert.com,
>> copley.chris_at_gmail.com, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>
>> Date: 09/14/2009 11:52 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Things get even more fun when you add / combine / cloud / muddy up the
>> waters by including port security and dot1x ...
>>
>> lol ...
>>
>> Yep, not much here. "nothing to see folks, move along"
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > hahahaha they should add some more
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 13:10, abderrahim sadki <a_sadki1_at_hotmail.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > I have a silly question.
>> > > >
>> > > > should we focus our studies according to the blueprint ? As when I
>> > > looked
>> > > > at it , I don' t see much of layer 2 technology for example.
>> > >
>> > > If we exclude:
>> > >
>> > > 1.00 Implement Layer 2 Technologies
>> > >
>> > > 1.10 Implement Spanning Tree Protocol (STP)
>> > > (a) 802.1d
>> > > (b) 802.1w
>> > > (c) 801.1s
>> > > (d) Loop guard
>> > > (e) Root guard
>> > > (f) Bridge protocol data unit (BPDU) guard
>> > > (g) Storm control
>> > > (h) Unicast flooding
>> > > (i) Port roles, failure propagation, and loop guard operation
>> > >
>> > > 1.20 Implement VLAN and VLAN Trunking Protocol (VTP)
>> > >
>> > > 1.30 Implement trunk and trunk protocols, EtherChannel, and
>> > load-balance
>> > >
>> > > 1.40 Implement Ethernet technologies
>> > > (a) Speed and duplex
>> > > (b) Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, and Gigabit Ethernet
>> > > (c) PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE)
>> > >
>> > > 1.50 Implement Switched Port Analyzer (SPAN), Remote Switched Port
>> > > Analyzer (RSPAN), and flow control
>> > >
>> > > 1.60 Implement Frame Relay
>> > > (a) Local Management Interface (LMI)
>> > > (b) Traffic shaping
>> > > (c) Full mesh
>> > > (d) Hub and spoke
>> > > (e) Discard eligible (DE)
>> > >
>> > > 1.70 Implement High-Level Data Link Control (HDLC) and PPP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > you are quite right - there are not that many left :-)
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Marko
>> > > CCIE #18427 (SP)
>> > > My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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