Re: OEQ NDA Question?

Well, going down your path though, and as I've said, yeah, my opinion
may not matter as much since I am not facing them in an upcoming lab. :)

But on the other hand, >I< think they would be a great addition to the
recertification process, and I wouldn't have any issue with them
appearing there either. But that's not likely a motivator on Cisco's part.

Scott

Tim wrote:
> It is just amazing that "people" did not see this coming a few months ago.
> As I stated in May, the QEQs are not a statistically valid method of
> testing. Many in this forum who already have multiple CCIEs (3 or 4)
> disagreed... This is kind of funny. Cisco will be able to play games by
> asking 4-5 subjective questions that they feel should be easily answered by
> a qualified CCIE candidate (whatever that means). If Cisco is going to
> continue with the QEQs, they should eliminate the $350 pre-qualification
> exam for each track if they feel the pre-qualification exams have been
> compromised or they should do more to secure the lab exam itself. Maybe the
> pre-qualification exam should be a written (pencil and paper) proctored
> exam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> West
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: Dennis Worth; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: OEQ NDA Question?
>
> I've heard and wondered the same thing. Unfortunately, no one at Cisco is
> likely to speak up and give us that answer. Part of the reason I have said
> to never underestimate the OEQ's is that 4 months after the exam, I just
> stumbled upon the answer to one of my OEQs. I had two questions that were
> like this.
>
> I have a little theory on this though. I believe students at all the
> testing centers that are within reasonable timezones of one another have the
> same set of OEQs. If only a couple of the students answer the question
> correctly, it's counted as valid. If no one answers it correctly, then
> those who are very close get credit. Something similar to blowing the curve
> or discarding the outliers.
>
> When I was speaking with the proctors at lunch, they both knew one of the
> questions I was referring to and I could tell they thought it was bogus and
> basically responded with "well, there are 3 others.." I know I was 2/3rd of
> the way correct on one question and sort of almost practically somewhat
> (scientific terms) correct on the other. I would not have expected most
> CCIE candidates to get those two questions correct, one was better suited
> for another track.
>
> I would love to share my two, maybe one day when I get permission.
>
> -ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Worth
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: OEQ NDA Question?
>
> Group,
> I was thinking that if the questions that Cisco asked in OEQ's are not used
> twice. Can't we share that information or least get clarity from other
> engineers on how they would answer, so that we can learn to provide the
> right solution next time?
>
> Any thought's on this?

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