On his website it states:
Prior to beginning Jeff Doyle and Associates, Jeff was with Juniper
Networks for 8 years as a Senior Network Architect with Junipers
Professional Services organization, and for the last two years as the
JUNOS Product Marketing Manager. Jeff was also a corporate spokesman
for Juniper Networks, speaking at technical forums and in media
interviews worldwide.
-- Regards, Iwan Hoogendoorn CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP) Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM, <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com> wrote: > Doesn't Doyle work at Juniper now? > > > > > From: > Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> > To: > Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> > Cc: > ccie forum <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> > Date: > 09/04/2009 10:05 AM > Subject: > Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's... > Sent by: > nobody_at_groupstudy.com > > > > I think it would be fairly interesting to hear from former CCIEs that > let their cert expire. I heard that Jeff Doyle did (Cisco Press). > > Unfortunately, I think we have about a 0% chance of finding them > reading this post on GS. > > :-) > > Warmest Regards, > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626 > http://www.INE.com > > Test your Core Knowledge today! > Q: What is the default number of paths that EIGRP will load balance > across? > A: 4 > More Info: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/1587200023/ch11lev1sec10 > > > On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Darby Weaver wrote: > >> Anyone care to speculate why 4000+ CCIE's don't think simply taking >> the CCIE >> Written again is worth all the effort they spent to get the CCIE in >> the >> first place and maintain it? >> >> I have to ask the question? >> >> A few CCIE's are asking me now and and a lot of CCIE's have asked me >> overall >> over the last few years - "How to get employed after attaining the >> CCIE?" >> >> Others seem to have an issue getting that raise or advancement. >> >> Is the ROI not there for about 1 in 6 CCIE's? >> >> Now while most of us say we seek the cert for personal reasons.... >> and this >> may be true since 5 in 6 are staying certified... >> >> But consider this: >> >> About 6,000 CCIE's and maybe even 9,000 or so are newly certified - >> meaning >> thay have yet to have to recertify or may be in Suspended Mode for not >> certifying in time and have a year to catch up... >> >> so... >> >> Now we have about 4000 or 16000 CCIE's who choose to let their CCIE >> wither >> an die.... >> >> I have to ask why those 25% think the CCIE not worth the effort of >> maintaining after such an effort? >> >> Now before we start... I guess a lot of people will chime in >> anonymously... >> >> >> That's great we are on the Internet. >> >> But if a fomer CCIE (verifiable) were to chime in on why he/she did >> not >> think the cert worth maintaining... that would be interesting. >> >> >> Can it be that many are just not finding jobs with the CCIE or just >> plainly >> have not seen the value... >> >> It costs most people at least $10-30k to achieve and 1-3+ years to >> attain... >> >> Not worth spending 3-6 months to prep for the CCIE Written and pay the >> $3xx.00 to maintain the certification? >> >> Why not? >> >> Did all of them just burnout, retire, or just die? >> >> Seems like a high number for all three of those reasons combined. >> >> >> Of course everyone has their own reasons.... >> >> >> Just curious... >> >> -- >> Darby Weaver >> Network Engineer >> >> 407-802-7394 >> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > -- Regards, Iwan Hoogendoorn CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP) Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Sat Sep 05 2009 - 08:38:16 ART
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