Re: Failed Again!!!

With you 100%, James.

Dude, the OEQ's arn't that bad. If you don't understand something, just ask
the proctor for clarification.

In the words of my proctor, "If you didn't cheat on the written, you should
have no problem with core knowledge."

My experience has proven that. Do some flashcards, memorize some crap you
don't really care about.. and pass it. Yes, it is helpful to understand what
the hell Stuck in Active means and how it is triggered.

Btw, not to advertise, but I used IEW's prep for the OEQ. It was great for
realizing areas that I didn't think of. If you're really having problems
with OEQ's, hit me up unicast and I'll give you a lesson plan of crap to go
over.

And finally, if you think you should have gotten the OEQs, open a case. The
worst they can do is say "no".

--WM

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Poplawski, James <
jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:

> Is this a pity party or a study list? The OEQs suck, but that's part of
> life. Work through it, persevere. I saw *actual* questions at Cisco Live
> and I don't recall any of them being too terrible.
>
> All of this time (complaining, griping, etc) could be put to studying for
> the new 4.0 track, honing your skills on QoS, MPLS and Zone Base Firewalls.
>
> Negativity is like cancer. Study hard and stay positive. Life's too short!
>
> Cheers!
> JB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:14 PM
> To: Raghav Bhargava
> Cc: Mark Matters; Roy Waterman; G2; Dennis Worth; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Failed Again!!!
>
> Hmm....
>
> Stop working on the lab?
>
> And then what?
>
> Have the 40,000+ Engineers on this list start working on developing actual
> Best Practices?
>
> Step by Step instructions on how and why to build a network effeciently and
> effectively...
>
> Where's the fun in that?
>
> Who would buy a certification based on Best/Leading Practices?
>
> Hmmm....
>
> Maybe this is a sign of the times...
>
> CompTIA Certified Internetworking Engineer
>
> The CCIE of tomorrow...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Raghav Bhargava
> <raghavbhargava12_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > But Mark, will it not mean that we all are incompetent.... I mean I am
> not
> > saying that I like OEQ but if we stop trying then I don think we are
> doing
> > any good. Maybe I could be wrong..
> > Raghav
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Mark Matters <markccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There is one way to solve this OEQ issue. Stop taking the lab. When the
> > > companies start crying that they can not find any CCIE's out there then
> > > Cisco will cut the non sense right away and start producing more
> CCIE's.
> > > Cisco has a false sense of how things are since all the seats are
> taken.
> > > People have filled the seats to get a crack at the old exam V3. Once it
> > > goes
> > > V4 watch and see how things go then. I expect to see lot's of people
> not
> > > even bothering. No one is going to throw their money away on a chance
> of
> > > getting 4 easy questions.
> > >
> > > Forget the money what about the time. People who study for the lab have
> > no
> > > life when studying. Every moment is dedicated to the lab. Time that you
> > > will
> > > not get back.
> > >
> > > Once this affects cisco then they will change.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Darby Weaver
> > Network Engineer
> >
> > 407-802-7394
> > darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
>
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