Re: Failed Again!!!

But Mark, will it not mean that we all are incompetent.... I mean I am not
saying that I like OEQ but if we stop trying then I don think we are doing
any good. Maybe I could be wrong..
Raghav

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Mark Matters <markccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> There is one way to solve this OEQ issue. Stop taking the lab. When the
> companies start crying that they can not find any CCIE's out there then
> Cisco will cut the non sense right away and start producing more CCIE's.
> Cisco has a false sense of how things are since all the seats are taken.
> People have filled the seats to get a crack at the old exam V3. Once it
> goes
> V4 watch and see how things go then. I expect to see lot's of people not
> even bothering. No one is going to throw their money away on a chance of
> getting 4 easy questions.
>
> Forget the money what about the time. People who study for the lab have no
> life when studying. Every moment is dedicated to the lab. Time that you
> will
> not get back.
>
> Once this affects cisco then they will change.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Roy Waterman <roy.waterman_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I hope necessary people from Cisco are reading this.
> > Pretty much everyone agrees that the way OEQs have been implemented is
> > simply a bad idea.
> > A no of ways have been mentioned to improve things.
> > Another way would be simply to have MORE questions.
> > You can be answering in a written exam, eg.... 30 or more questions
> > correctly in a row, & then get 2 questions wrong.
> > If the OEQ was based on the last 2 u got right, & next 2 u got wrong,
> > you've
> > just paid for an expensive lunch.
> > News such as this is very disheartening to those of us who have taken the
> > lab & failed based on OEQ, or are soon to take the lab.
> > As has been mentioned, a lof of us have families & put so much time into
> > getting this cert, that it deprives us of time with family.
> > To then fail based on some obscure questions which has nothing to do with
> > being a "well prepared candidate" just plain sucks hard.
> >
> > When I do pass my lab, I will have to put it down to luck at passing the
> > OEQs and not as a result of being well prepared.
> >
> > Does Cisco want ppl to pass based on LUCK or level of preparation?
> > *sighs*
> >
> > Sorry to hear of your story Dennis, as well as others who failed due to
> > OEQ.
> > Just keep it going, you've put so much effort into it, the end is almost
> in
> > sight.
> >
> > I'm hoping that the OEQ gets removed very soon.
> > AFter all, we will have the troubleshooting section to think of as well,
> > which should test effectively whether a candiate is well prepared or
> not...
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/4 G2 <farawayguy_at_gmail.com>
> >
> > > Dennis,
> > >
> > > Last month the same thing happened to me, I feel for ya. I believe
> that
> > > the OEQ's have evolved over their lifespan. I have read rumors that
> the
> > > questions are never duplicated. If that is indeed the case, over time
> > the
> > > questions would get progressively harder.
> > > Another thing to keep in mind is that one persons OEQ experience can be
> > > different from the next. The ones claiming they are easy may have
> gotten
> > > easy questions.
> > >
> > > In any case, I am now learning MPLS for the V4 exam. Stay motivated
> > > brother!
> > >
> > > -Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Dennis Worth wrote:
> > >
> > > FYI Group
> > >> Failed CCIE R&S for the 4th time, and this time it was because of the
> > >> OEQ's.
> > >> I am so glad Cisco wants to stop the cheaters out there, but after 5
> > years
> > >> on and off of going through this stuff to pass this lab, failing on 1
> > >> simple
> > >> question that is not EXACTLY what they are asking for is absolutely
> out
> > of
> > >> control.
> > >>
> > >> I will be back, but to all who take this lab exam, you might as well
> > chalk
> > >> it up to LUCK more than skill or knowledge. I hate what this exam has
> > come
> > >> to. It really has no relevance to anything with those questions.
> > >>
> > >> Best of LUCK to anyone who takes the lab, because you will need it!
> > >>
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> > >>
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