RE: Nexus in DC?

EX supports MPLS, but Nexus Not.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Mur
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:13 PM
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Nexus in DC?

I still don't see any features that the Nexus can do and the EX can't, apart
from the vPC/VSS-like stuff :-) It's a great core switch, just for fast
L2/L3 switching in the core it's basically the same product.
No offense, I rather install the Nexus above the Juniper ;-)

--
Regards,
Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Tony Varriale
<tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>wrote:
> Why can't it?  It's a different product.  Take a look at the slicks.
> You should be able to tell just from those.  It's far more than MEC.
>
> I thought the EX was 160 per slot.  I guess I'll have to dig around
> for some info since I'm not that good with Juniper.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:23 AM, Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > I know you can enable 'performance mode' so the linecard shuts down
> > 24 ports of the linecard.
> >
> > Why can't the EX compete to the Nexus? The performance is quite the
> > same if not better as the Nexus line and totally owns the Cat6500 in
> > terms of performance. Still the Cat wins it on service modules and
> > the vast amount of line cards.
> > And btw. the EX8200 already has 320Gbps backplane connection for all
> > linecards while the Nexus gets support for 230Gbps linecards end of
> > the year and I don't even want to know when they start thinking of
> > 500Gbps to finally offer true non-blocking 32-port 10Gbps
> > linecards :-)
> > The only thing the EX8200 lacks is support for some sort of multi-
> > chassis etherchannel, this is on the roadmap to be released soon
> > though.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Mur
> > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> > Sr. Support Engineer b  IPexpert, Inc.
> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Tony Varriale <
> tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com
> > > wrote:
> > Ok.you didn't say anything about the n7k in your message.
> >
> >
> >
> > The n7k 10gig card can be "non-blocking".even thought that isn't the
> > correct
> > terminology.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, the v2 cards are coming out next year which will address the
> > 10g card
> > oversub issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > The EX series doesn't really compete with the Nexus line.  It's more
> > of a
> > competitor to the 6500s/ME6500s.  When the new Cisco Sup comes out
> > it will
> > match the 10gig per slot capabilities.  The EX is more of just
> > straight 10GE
> > enterprise or SP.
> >
> >
> >
> > tv
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rick Mur [mailto:rmur_at_ipexpert.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:46 PM
> > To: Tony Varriale
> > Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Nexus in DC?
> >
> >
> >
> > The Nexus 7k. Of the 32-port 10GE linecard, you can only use 8
> > specifically
> > marked ports if you want the full non-blocking 10GE due to the
> > backplane
> > connection. End 2009 they will release a linecard with 230Gbps
> > backplane
> > connection, so that should give a little better port-density vs.
> > performance. Also the Cat6500 is oversubscribed as it also has a
> > 40Gbps
> > backplane connection and you can buy 8-port 10GE linecards and 48-
> > port 1GE
> > ones.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I really like the non-blocking idea of the Juniper EX8200, great
> > selling
> > point :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Mur
> > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> > Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Tony Varriale <
> tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Which Cisco product are you referring to that is oversubbed?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > I will be installing the first UCS chassis' in the Netherlands
> > within the
> > next month, of course with the UCS6k (Tweaked Nexus 5k). I also
> > implemented
> > one of the first Nexus 5k's in NL last March :-)
> > So yes cool stuff! Still needs some time to get mature in terms of
> > hardware
> > and software.
> > Juniper actually has a better DC switch with their EX8200 (totally
> > non-blocking), much cheaper for the same amount of bandwidth (not port
> > density, but the Juniper is NOT oversubscribed).
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rick Mur
> > CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> > Sr. Support Engineer   IPexpert, Inc.
> > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Ronald Johns <rj686b_at_att.com> wrote:
> >
> > We're doing Nexus as well.  In fact, we're likely ordering everything
> > tomorrow.  Keep in mind, there's a limit to 12 FEX's to a 5000
> > cluster, or
> > at least that's what they tell me.  They screwed up our first quote
> > because
> > our SE didn't look into this...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Omkar Tambalkar
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:12 PM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Nexus in DC?
> >
> > We are also rolling out the NX 7010 and 5020 in the next couple of
> > months
> > as
> > part of our datacenter network upgrade. I am planning to use vPCs
> > from the
> > 5020 to 7010 but as we are using 2 VDCs there will be vPC for each VDC
> > translating to 4 10g coming out of each 5020. I am sure we will have
> > to get
> > a extra 32 port 10g card with 8 ports dedicated for line speed for
> > these
> > cross connects. Not to mention you need 1 keep-alive and 1 cross-
> > connect
> > for
> > each VDC.
> > It seems that the 7010 can do lot of service aggregation using the
> > ACE,
> > WAAS
> > modules but we just want to consolidate our aggregation switches in to
> > single set of chasiss.
> > On top of that in a few months time, we have provide active-active
> > datacenter functionality with a set of NX 7010 at each datacenter so
> > that
> > traffic can be load balanced.
> > And the training was a 4-day Firefly course...which was fairly basic
> > in
> > terms of depth and breadth of material covered
> > Fun times.......
> >
> > -Omkar Tambalkar
> > CCIE #24892
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Tony Varriale
> > <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>wrote:
> >
> > Yup.
> >
> > If this is your first experience with any of those platforms I
> > guarantee
> > you
> > are going to run into something not so pleasant.
> >
> > tv
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Marc
> > La Porte
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:27 AM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Nexus in DC?
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Any of you already having practical experience with big Nexus roll-
> > outs
> >
> > in
> >
> > Data Centers? Running into any "problems"?
> >
> > For a customer we are planning to deploy 5020 end-of-row switches with
> > 2148T
> > top-of-rack switches, aggregated in 7018s fully loaded with 32-port
> >
> > 10-Gbps
> >
> > blades. Just to give you an idea, the complete data center would be
> >
> > around
> >
> > 256 rows (30,000 ports)...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> >
> >
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