Re: Conditional Advertise

From: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:53:54 -0400

hhehehe... Very true. And as CCIE's we're all about seeing methods
and not problems! He did just want it announced based on certain criteria.

 

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

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Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> I did NOT see that as a requirement in Sagar's question. Did you?
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com
> <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com>> wrote:
>
> Its using the logic of a conditional announcement, but its not a
> BGP conditional route announcement using an exist-map. Thats
> what I was referring to. It seems to be a short coming of the
> implementation.
>
>
>
> -ryan
>
>
>
> *From:* Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:45 PM
> *To:* Ryan West
> *Cc:* Divin Mathew John; S Malik; smorris_at_ine.com
> <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>; Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Sagar
> Rane; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Conditional Advertise
>
>
>
> The second solution did NOT advertise another route, so it should
> be fine in the real world or an exam.
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com
> <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com>> wrote:
>
> Narbik,
>
> I agree that this would work, but it's really a hack in the end.
> You're telling BGP to announce another route when those two
> conditions exist by creating another route advertisement in BGP.
> In the lab and the real world, this means you have to filter that
> fictitious route from all your announcements and having at least a
> distribute list out to each neighbor. I understand that it's
> needed for the conditional route announcement (another short
> coming IMO), but it seems rather ugly when the solution should be
> allowing for *continue* in the route-map.
>
> -ryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On
> Behalf Of Divin Mathew John
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:55 PM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: S Malik; smorris_at_ine.com <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>; Anantha
> Subramanian Natarajan; Sagar Rane; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Conditional Advertise
>
> it would be awesome if you could just list out the methods
> (technologies
> being used)
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Narbik Kocharians
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>>wrote:
>
> > There are few ways to do this, in the following i am showing you
> just 2
> > ways:
> > Try this, so if netw 1.0.0.0 and 11.0.0.0 are BOTH up, only
> then, network
> > 2.0.0.0 should be advertised:
> >
> > The topology should be as follows:
> > R1 -------- R2 -------- R3
> >
> > R1 is advertising 1.0.0.0/8 <http://1.0.0.0/8> and 11.0.0.0/8
> <http://11.0.0.0/8>
> > R2 is advertising 2.0.0.0/8 <http://2.0.0.0/8>
> >
> > *Set up a boolean logic and identify network 1.0.0.0/8
> <http://1.0.0.0/8> and 11.0.0.0/8:* <http://11.0.0.0/8:*>
> > R2(config)#Track 1 list boolean *AND
> > *R2(config-track)#object 2
> > R2(config-track)#object 3
> > R2(config-track)#track 2 ip route 1.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 reach
> > R2(config-track)#track 3 ip route 11.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 reach
> > *Setup a fake route and tie "Track 1" to the fake route and
> advertise the
> > fake route in BGP:*
> >
> > R2(config)#ip route 200.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 null0 *track 1*
> >
> > R2(config)#router bgp 200
> > R2(config-route-map)#Network 200.1.1.1 mask 255.255.255.255
> >
> > *Identify network 2.0.0.0/8 <http://2.0.0.0/8> and the fake
> network:*
> >
> > R2(config)#ip prefix-list NET permit 200.1.1.1/32
> <http://200.1.1.1/32>
> > R2(config)#ip prefix-list NET2 permit 2.0.0.0/8 <http://2.0.0.0/8>
> >
> > *Configure a route-map called "Adv" and reference the
> prefix-list that
> > references network 2.0.0.0/8:* <http://2.0.0.0/8:*>
> >
> > R2(config)#route-map Adv permit 10
> > R2(config-route-map)#match ip addr prefix NET2
> >
> > *Configure a route-map called "EXIST" and reference the
> prefix-list that
> > references network 200.1.1.1/32 <http://200.1.1.1/32> (The fake
> network):*
> >
> > R2(config-route-map)#route-map EXIST permit 10
> > R2(config-route-map)#match ip addr prefix NET
> >
> > *Configure an advertise-map and an exist map:*
> >
> > R2(config-route-map)#router bgp 200
> > R2(config-router)#neigh 10.1.23.3 advertise-map Adv exist-map EXIST
> >
> > *If the first example does not turn you on, then, try this one:*
> >
> > same topology as before.
> >
> > *On R2*
> >
> > *track 1 list boolean and
> > object 2
> > object 3
> > !
> > track 2 ip route 1.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 reachability
> > track 3 ip route 11.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 reachability*
> >
> > *Instead of creating a loopback interface and assigning
> 2.0.0.0/8 <http://2.0.0.0/8> to it,
> > just create a static route to Null0, as long as the static route
> is there,
> > BGP will advertise it, since "Track 1" is referenced by the
> static route,
> > this network (2.0.0.0/8 <http://2.0.0.0/8>) will only be there
> if the boolean logic is true:*
> >
> > * Router bgp 200
> > Network 2.0.0.0
> >
> > *
> > *ip route 2.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Null0 track 1*
> >
> > * *
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:25 AM, S Malik <ccie.09_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:ccie.09_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Scott,
> >> I already thought of using sla tracking, some how it does not
> seem to be
> >> fitting in it.
> >>
> >> Only as-path is the option that I could match after a prefix
> list under
> >> the
> >> same clause and I think even this as-path should be the associated
> >> attribute
> >> of the prefix we matched earlier.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
> <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> > No, they'd all be or, or, or, or....
> >> >
> >> > If you have the ability (likely not in CCIE) to use a static
> route, you
> >> can
> >> > put a track condition on it. With the tracking mechanisms,
> we have much
> >> > more boolean control on and, or, not, etc. But not in a
> route-map!
> >> Bummer
> >> > there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713,
> >> >
> >> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >> >
> >> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >> >
> >> > evil_at_ine.com <mailto:evil_at_ine.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Divin Mathew John wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From wht Malik Qoouted..
> >> > route-map ABC permit 10
> >> > match ip add prefi P Q R
> >> > match Ip add prefix XYZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > means
> >> >
> >> > if((P OR Q OR R) AND (X OR Y OR Z)
> >> > then exceute SET
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Divin Mathew John
> >> <divinjohn_at_gmail.com <mailto:divinjohn_at_gmail.com>>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> For this u gotta use the CONTINUE Clause in route-maps
> >> >>
> >> >> Filtering Traffic Using Continue Clauses in a BGP Route Map
> >> >>
> >> >> Perform this task to filter traffic using continue clauses
> in a BGP
> >> route
> >> >> map. In Cisco IOS Release 12.3(2)T, 12.0(24)S, 12.2(33)SRB,
> and later
> >> >> releases, the continue clause was introduced into BGP route map
> >> >> configuration. The continue clause allows for more
> programmable policy
> >> >> configuration and route filtering and introduced the
> capability to
> >> execute
> >> >> additional entries in a route map after an entry is executed
> with
> >> successful
> >> >> match and set clauses. Continue clauses allow the network
> operator to
> >> >> configure and organize more modular policy definitions so
> that specific
> >> >> policy configurations need not be repeated within the same
> route map.
> >> Before
> >> >> the continue clause was introduced, route map configuration
> was linear
> >> and
> >> >> did not allow any control over the flow of a route map.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Cisco IOS Release 12.0(31)S, 12.4(4)T, 12.2(33)SRB, and later
> >> releases,
> >> >> support for continue clauses for outbound route maps was
> introduced.
> >> >> Route Map Operation Without Continue Clauses
> >> >>
> >> >> A route map evaluates match clauses until a successful match
> occurs.
> >> After
> >> >> the match occurs, the route map stops evaluating match
> clauses and
> >> starts
> >> >> executing set clauses, in the order in which they were
> configured. If a
> >> >> successful match does not occur, the route map "falls
> through" and
> >> evaluates
> >> >> the next sequence number of the route map until all
> configured route
> >> map
> >> >> entries have been evaluated or a successful match occurs.
> Each route
> >> map
> >> >> sequence is tagged with a sequence number to identify the
> entry. Route
> >> map
> >> >> entries are evaluated in order starting with the lowest
> sequence number
> >> and
> >> >> ending with the highest sequence number. If the route map
> contains only
> >> set
> >> >> clauses, the set clauses will be executed automatically, and
> the route
> >> map
> >> >> will not evaluate any other route map entries.
> >> >> Route Map Operation with Continue Clauses
> >> >>
> >> >> When a continue clause is configured, the route map will
> continue to
> >> >> evaluate and execute match clauses in the specified route
> map entry
> >> after
> >> a
> >> >> successful match occurs. The continue clause can be
> configured to go to
> >> (or
> >> >> jump to) a specific route map entry by specifying the
> sequence number,
> >> or
> >> if
> >> >> a sequence number is not specified, the continue clause will
> go to the
> >> next
> >> >> sequence number. This behavior is called an "implied
> continue." If a
> >> match
> >> >> clause exists, the continue clause is executed only if a
> match occurs.
> >> If
> >> no
> >> >> successful matches occur, the continue clause is ignored.
> >> >> Match Operations with Continue Clauses
> >> >>
> >> >> If a match clause does not exist in the route map entry but
> a continue
> >> >> clause does, the continue clause will be automatically
> executed and go
> >> to
> >> >> the specified route map entry. If a match clause exists in a
> route map
> >> >> entry, the continue clause is executed only when a
> successful match
> >> occurs.
> >> >> When a successful match occurs and a continue clause exists,
> the route
> >> map
> >> >> executes the set clauses and then goes to the specified
> route map
> >> entry.
> >> If
> >> >> the next route map entry contains a continue clause, the
> route map will
> >> >> execute the continue clause if a successful match occurs. If
> a continue
> >> >> clause does not exist in the next route map entry, the route
> map will
> >> be
> >> >> evaluated normally. If a continue clause exists in the next
> route map
> >> entry
> >> >> but a match does not occur, the route map will not continue
> and will
> >> "fall
> >> >> through" to the next sequence number if one exists.
> >> >> Set Operations with Continue Clauses
> >> >>
> >> >> Set clauses are saved during the match clause evaluation
> process and
> >> >> executed after the route-map evaluation is completed. The
> set clauses
> >> are
> >> >> evaluated and executed in the order in which they were
> configured. Set
> >> >> clauses are executed only after a successful match occurs,
> unless the
> >> route
> >> >> map does not contain a match clause. The continue statement
> proceeds to
> >> the
> >> >> specified route map entry only after configured set actions are
> >> performed.
> >> >> If a set action occurs in the first route map and then the
> same set
> >> action
> >> >> occurs again, with a different value, in a subsequent route
> map entry,
> >> the
> >> >> last set action may override any previous set actions that were
> >> configured
> >> >> with the same set command unless the set command permits
> more than one
> >> >> value. For example, the set as-path prepend command permits
> more than
> >> one
> >> >> autonomous system number to be configured.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/ip_route/configuration/guide/t_brbe
> >>
>
> xt.html#wp1061585<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/ip_route/configur
> ation/guide/t_brbext.html#wp1061585
> <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/ip_route/configuration/guide/t_brbext.html#wp1061585>>
>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:20 PM, S Malik <ccie.09_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:ccie.09_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Natraajan,
> >> >>> you are correct, ACL & Prefix-list under same clause don't go
> >> together.
> >> >>> Please see following link quoting example and I wrongly
> understood
> >> AND/OR
> >> >>> logic from there,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=-SM1Jeu07UYC&pg=RA1-PA273&lpg=RA1-PA273&dq=r
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=-SM1Jeu07UYC&pg=RA1-PA273&lpg=RA1-PA273&dq=r>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>
> oute-map+logical+AND&source=bl&ots=w8TcsNnJHf&sig=jvVGIhjeOBFS6njdfBjFzn4cnyY
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>
> &hl=en&ei=fDGZSs_kAcuf8Qau8uSfBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=one
> >> >>>
> >> page&q=route-map%20logical%20AND&f=false<
> >> http://books.google.com/books?id=-SM
> >>
> >>
> 1Jeu07UYC&pg=RA1-PA273&lpg=RA1-PA273&dq=r%0Aoute-map+logical+AND&source=bl&ot
> >>
> >>
> s=w8TcsNnJHf&sig=jvVGIhjeOBFS6njdfBjFzn4cnyY%0A&hl=en&ei=fDGZSs_kAcuf8Qau8uSf
> >>
> >>
> BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=one%0Apage&q=route-map%20logical%
> >>
>
> 20AND&f=false<http://books.google.com/books?id=-SM1Jeu07UYC&pg=RA1-PA273&lpg=
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=-SM1Jeu07UYC&pg=RA1-PA273&lpg=>
>
> RA1-PA273&dq=r%0Aoute-map+logical+AND&source=bl&ots=w8TcsNnJHf&sig=jvVGIhjeOB
>
> FS6njdfBjFzn4cnyY%0A&hl=en&ei=fDGZSs_kAcuf8Qau8uSfBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=r
>
> esult&resnum=2#v=one%0Apage&q=route-map%20logical%20AND&f=false>
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Anantha Subramanian
> Natarajan <
> >> >>> anantha.natarajan_at_gravitant.com
> <mailto:anantha.natarajan_at_gravitant.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Hi Scott,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If I understand properly from you ,I tried that,it give
> an error
> >> >>> > mentioning u can't use the prefix-list and access-list on
> the same
> >> >>> route-map
> >> >>> > sequence as below
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > *"% prefix-list and access-list can not co-exist in one
> route-map
> >> >>> > sequence"*
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Regards
> >> >>> > Anantha Subramanian Natraajan
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Scott Morris
> <smorris_at_ine.com <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> If they're the same TYPE (e.g. two ACLs) then the router
> will redo
> >> >>> things
> >> >>> >> for you onto the same line, making the logic an OR. Kind of
> >> obnoxious
> >> >>> if
> >> >>> >> you ask me. :)
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> But if you do two DIFFERENT things (e.g. one prefix list
> and one
> >> ACL)
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> >> can have the AND logic working.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider)
> >> >>> #4713,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> evil_at_ine.com <mailto:evil_at_ine.com>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
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> >> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
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> >> >>> >>
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> >> >>> >>
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> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Knowledge is power.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Power corrupts.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> S Malik wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> One thing is sure that same line is O, when we assign
> two ACL under
> >> >>> one
> >> >>> >> clause, it is shown in one line and treated as OR.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Anantha Subramanian
> Natarajan
> >> >>> <anantha.natarajan_at_gravitant.com
> <mailto:anantha.natarajan_at_gravitant.com>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Hi Sugar Can,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Can you try inside the route-map as below
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Match ip address prefix-list <prefix-list1><prefix-list2>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I think whenever we specify the match criteria on same
> line ,it is
> >> an
> >> >>> AND
> >> >>> >> operation
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Regards
> >> >>> >> Anantha Subramanian Natarajan
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Sagar Rane
> <sagar.ccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:sagar.ccie_at_gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >>> <sagar.ccie_at_gmail.com <mailto:sagar.ccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Hi All,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have requirement where, bgp should check its bgp
> routing table
> >> for
> >> >>> two
> >> >>> >> routes eq (10.1.1.0/24 <http://10.1.1.0/24> and
> 20.2.2.2/32 <http://20.2.2.2/32>) and only if both routes
> >> are
> >> >>> >> present,
> >> >>> >> it should originate a route advertisement of
> 192.168.10.0/24 <http://192.168.10.0/24>.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have tried advertise-map and exist map, but how can we
> used
> >> >>> exist-map
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> to
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> check both the routes at the same time?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Anyway how we can meet this requirement please let me know.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Regards,
> >> >>> >> Sagar
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> <http://www.ccie.net/>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >>
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> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Anatole France
> <http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27546.html> - "If
> >> >> fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a
> foolish thing."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Sent from Cochin, KL, India
> >> > Rodney Dangerfield
> <http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/34016.html> -
> >> "I
> >> > went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out."
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Narbik Kocharians
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