Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Things r quite difficult here in Pakistan, there is not much recognition for
prof. certs back here.... Its all about experience over here. Ive been
working at NOC of a Technologically rich ISP for last 3 yrz, n during all
this time ive invested everything (money,time n all) only on Prof certs, ive
earned a CCNA,CCNP,CCIP n CCIE Written ( n some Juniper certs) n still i m
sitting at the same position n salary (approx) as i was 3 yrz back....no one
leaves the job n therefore noone gets promoted... nowadays i m preparing for
the lab n still investing day n nite to the hardwork.... and with all the
lost hopes that have been given to me in this mail, wud i stay back here
once im done with my lab?? Its really hard to c management n pmo guys
getting 50 to 100 % increment while WE getting 15 to 25 % increment with the
words : Ur lucky to even get 25% looking at the economy ....

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:22 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow!
>
> Back in 2006 I travelled to Pakistan just because IBM had no one
> locally to show to one of its important customers. As I was told,
> there were only several local CCIE's, all of them working for Cisco,
> none for the partners, and returning from abroad because they felt
> they can contribute. It is still cool that so many local engineers
> managed to get to the CCIE level, but what happened since then?
> Please unicast me if you want to.
>
> Mihai
> CCIE #16616
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2009, CC IE <cciestriker_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > hmmm
> > well other problem that i have experienced that there is no project
> coming
> > due to economic meltdown here in Pakistan due to which vendors over here
> are
> > reluctant to add more CCIEs to there lineup.
> >
> > 76 to be precise, i feel is alot of ccie for a country like Pakistan but
> i
> > think 60-70% are working abroad not in Pakistan.
> >
> > lets see what happens to me
> >
> > Regards
> > Atif
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:42 PM, <itguy.pro@http://gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Khurram, are you from pakistan?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:36:53
> >> To: Khurram Noor<engr.khurramnoor_at_googlemail.com>
> >> Cc: Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; Divin Mathew John<
> >> divinjohn_at_gmail.com>; Abdul Waheed Ghaffar<a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com>; <
> >> http://asim.mz@http://gmail.com>; <riz.iqbal82@gmail.com>; <
> martin_at_kiefer.dk>
> >> Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry I got my country mixed up.
> >>
> >> But still only 73 in one whole country is kind of sparse.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Khurram Noor <
> >> engr.khurramnoor_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The count of 73 CCIE is for Pakistan, not for India. India has 666
> CCIEs
> >> in
> >> > a population of 1.07 billion. i like your concept and i believe a few
> >> more
> >> > including me would like to work with you if you start this in
> Pakistan.
> >> >
> >> > On 8/27/09, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ok
> >> >>
> >> >> By request...
> >> >>
> >> >> Since I've had the good fortune to speak to the two people who know
> >> >> whether
> >> >> anyone can cheat on the CCIE, what is considered cheating and
> conversely
> >> >> what is not (hint: integrity and identification is the key), and
> finally
> >> >> how
> >> >> it all kinda adds up in the longs run...
> >> >>
> >> >> If you only got 73 CCIE's in one country the size of India... and
> can't
> >> >> find
> >> >> suitable employment as a CCIE, not to be mean... but I have to ask...
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. What does your resume look like?
> >> >> 2. What does your experience look like.
> >> >> 3. Cisco is probably not worried about 73 CCIE's taking the CCIE and
> 3
> >> >> score
> >> >> and a little more devalueing the industry... Nope.
> >> >> 4. Do you get the interview at all?
> >> >> 5. Do you know Cisco has TAC in India and I'm sure they are hiring
> >> >> well-qualified job applicants?
> >> >> 6. Consulting has got to pay... I know sub-CCIE's in the USA doing
> >> remote
> >> >> work in India - a few actually... and if they are employed and
> earning
> >> USA
> >> >> Dollars.... at a rate that is attractive to partners (say $100-200+
> per
> >> >> hour) then I have a hard time believing that 73 CCIE's have saturated
> a
> >> >> market of millions...
> >> >>
> >> >> 7. If you guys are truly having this much trouble - lemme know...
> maybe
> >> I
> >> >> can start a company in India with these CCIE's and service clients
> >> >> anywhere
> >> >> else in the USA... Promise you - I can market you and pay you
> prevailing
> >> >> wage or better for part-time work or full-time project work...
> >> >>
> >> >> By the way - this has all the makings of a genuine offer... for
> CCIE's
> >> >> mostly anywhere... FYI - I was able to sell my MCSE for $125 per
> hour
> >> on
> >> >> a
> >> >> factor of 3... per hour. I'm sure I can manuever a CCIE a few ways
> to
> >> >> Sunday and I love the "Sun Does Not Set On My CCIE's Concept". In
> >> short,
> >> >> I
> >> >> should be able to get you paid and keep you paid... even if we gotta
> go
>
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Regards,
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