RE: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

In the handbook, it says never let them see you sweat (and everyone thought that Dry Idea coined that phrase).

When going before a review board for promotion, if they asked you the color of the sky and you answered purple - your goal was to say it with such conviction that they would actually look out the window to see if the sky was purple. As well, once you answered it, you should never back down from your answer.......unfortunately these techniques probably won't work on the OEQ's :)

Thank you for your kind words Mr. Morris!
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From: Scott Morris [smorris_at_ine.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Nathan Richie
Cc: Anthony Sequeira; groupstudy
Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

You'd do the Marine's proud there. I don't think you broke a sweat but a couple times.... Either that or you were smart enough to leave the room and camoflage it. ;)

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Nathan Richie wrote:

I believe that Scott and Anthony would make any Marine Corps Drill Instructor proud!

In the Corps, we would say "every day is a holiday, every meal is a fest, & every payday, they get a little more generous"!

One thing about me, I am always thankful for a meal good bad or otherwise :)

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From: Anthony Sequeira [asequeira_at_ine.com<mailto:asequeira_at_ine.com>]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:23 AM
To: Nathan Richie
Cc: groupstudy
Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

How did the INE Bootcamp compare to the US Marines version? Please
tell me we offered better food!

In complete and total seriousness, thanks so much for your service
Nathan, and the awesome advice here.

Warmest Regards,

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On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Nathan Richie wrote:

I agree with Terry and would like to add the following thoughts....

I am the type of person if you want me to do it, tell me that I
cannot. People told me that the US Marines were too hard that I
should consider another branch. On mornings that I woke up in
Bootcamp asking me what I was doing, I remembered all the nah-sayers
and how I wanted to prove them wrong. People do this because misery
loves company. For me part of the CCIE journey is others that I
know who have not been successful and have tried to cast doubts on
me. BTW - I not only completed bootcamp to become a US Marine, I
served for 7 years receiving 5 promotions and surviving the 1st Gulf
War.

Another reason is regret. I can list on 1 hand the things that I
truly regret NOT doing when I had the opportunity. Much like Terry,
I have been doing IT for some time and have dabbled with the CCIE
idea. I have committed to getting my CCIE now and I have committed
to be successful. No matter how many ways I find not to pass the
lab :).

Lastly, think about how it will feel when you get your number. I
talked to a friend yesterday and he explained his feelings upon
seeing the PASS on his report.

I cannot wait to experience the same!

Hope you find your reasons and refocus.

Regards,

Nathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of Terry Vinson
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:45 AM
To: groupstudy
Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

Hey ospfv2,

I'm 42 with four sons (19,10,4,2.5) and I've failed the lab twice.
Some
mornings I ask myself why I'm doing this to myself, but honestly I
have
to believe I would have asked the same question at 20. I wish I could
say age isn't a factor, but I don't remember things like I use to be
able to and my late night studies exact a bitter toll.

Feeling burnt out is exactly that a "feeling". Step back get some
perspective and ask why you started in the first place. For me it's a
lifetime goal rather than a "professional milestone needed to make
Millions". If you don't want to be a CCIE anymore quit, and you'll
not
miss the heart ache. But if you do want it then you will kick
yourself
HARD one day for letting yourself down.

Life is to short to do stuff you don't want to do! But I think if
you
shut out all the "I PASSED THE FIRST TIMES," and the "OH MY GOD they
changed this and now the test is unpassable!!!" and focus on the
prize, you will find that point of fact "Luck is not a factor".
Honestly at 40 I KNOW that when I WANT something bad enough failure is
not an option.
I suspect it is pretty much the same with you.

Warmest Regards,
Terry

ospfv2 wrote:

Just curious, how many of you between your 35-40 and still going
chasing the lab ?

i'm feeling too old and think about to burn my cisco bridge, build
another one and
better spending my time on endeavours where the odds are more
stacked in my favour to bring the success i desire.

rgds

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