Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

dear atif,

let me know where are you working these days. than i will let know the
markete in Pakistan for CCIE.

regards
rizwan

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk> wrote:

> Hi.
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> I think in overall I agreed what you are saying, you just use a lot more
> words than I do :-)
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> You just have to remember one thin, having the CCIE number does not make
> you
> eligible for the 150-200K USD. I know CCNAs that make these numbers were I
> live. It is all about experience and skills!
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> Where I live (Denmark, Europe) we have a 3 months "test-time" when you get
> employed. This means, if you are one heck of a poker player and can beat
> the
> 200K limit with this, but has poorly or no skills, you won't beat the 3
> month time-limit :-)
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> " I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what one
> needs to know in advance."
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> I would say that, if you have 5 years of experience you should know this by
> know. Especially if you are working in the networking industry, you should
> after 5 years have made relationships with coworkers CCIEs and non CCIEs
> and
> have an idea about their salaries.
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> "I guess it all depends."
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> I totally agree, just being a CCIE does not make the money, it all depends
> on skills and experience (I know your line is taken out of context :-)
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> "Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
> your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
> frustrating to the max."
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> I cannot agree 100% on this one. If you think you got a good deal
> negotiating your salary, does it really matter what your coworkers are paid
> then?
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> You negotiated that deal based on your own experience and skills, if you
> then learn your coworkers are paid more, then you have gained more
> experience and are ready for the negotiating the following year, and if you
> at that time can negotiate a better deal, then you have gained more skills,
> and are once again ready for the following year. See, it all adds up :-)
>
>
>
> /Martin
>
>
>
> From: Darby Weaver [mailto:darby.weaver_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: 24. august 2009 21:36
> To: Martin Kiefer
> Cc: GS CCIE-Lab
> Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
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> Are you sure?
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> I know of CCIE's in the USA who have settled for 50k, 60k, (three different
> CCIE's in those cases for three different employers).
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> I know of CCIE's who work for $100k - $125k pretty regularly in the USA.
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> I've heard of others who beat the $135-200k range.
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> I know of CCIE's on contract working for $125-175.00 per hour.
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> I recall a CCIE doing some $10k per day.
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> So to say one should know for sure is a little cavalier.
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> The truth is the rate is negotiable and depends on experience. That
> experience may have little or nothing to do with the job and a lot more to
> do with Poker or Blackjack than anything else.
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> Finally, what are you willing to work for in the market given the
> conditions
> as they are presented. What will you do if you land in a scenario you
> cannot live with and must leave?
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> Is the CCIE able to undertake risks of self-employment? Or does the CCIE
> need the job-security and certainty of a Fortune 500 company (which may not
> be very certain any way).
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> I guess it all depends.
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> I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what one
> needs to know in advance.
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> Network with your peers in-person and on-line.
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> Get a feel for things and get paid.
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> Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
> your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
> frustrating to the max.
>
>
>
> Know your market. Market your knowledge.
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> HINT: Companies seed resumes to feel out the market.
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> Maybe you should do the same with companies when you are not in the market.
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> Knowledge is Power.
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> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk> wrote:
>
> The quick answer should be 42.
>
> On the other hand, with 5 years of experiance and a CCIE number, you should
> now have the experience to know what kind of salary you think you are
> worth,
> even in Pakistan.
>
> /Martin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of CC
> IE
> Sent: 24. august 2009 09:40
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: CCIE salary in Pakistan
>
> Hi
>
> Anybody from Pakistan an guide, what is the expected salary for a CCIE with
> 5 yrs experience.
>
> Regards
> Atif
>
>
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