RE: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Hi.

I think in overall I agreed what you are saying, you just use a lot more
words than I do :-)

You just have to remember one thin, having the CCIE number does not make you
eligible for the 150-200K USD. I know CCNAs that make these numbers were I
live. It is all about experience and skills!

Where I live (Denmark, Europe) we have a 3 months "test-time" when you get
employed. This means, if you are one heck of a poker player and can beat the
200K limit with this, but has poorly or no skills, you won't beat the 3
month time-limit :-)

" I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what one
needs to know in advance."

I would say that, if you have 5 years of experience you should know this by
know. Especially if you are working in the networking industry, you should
after 5 years have made relationships with coworkers CCIEs and non CCIEs and
have an idea about their salaries.

"I guess it all depends."

I totally agree, just being a CCIE does not make the money, it all depends
on skills and experience (I know your line is taken out of context :-)

"Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
frustrating to the max."

I cannot agree 100% on this one. If you think you got a good deal
negotiating your salary, does it really matter what your coworkers are paid
then?

You negotiated that deal based on your own experience and skills, if you
then learn your coworkers are paid more, then you have gained more
experience and are ready for the negotiating the following year, and if you
at that time can negotiate a better deal, then you have gained more skills,
and are once again ready for the following year. See, it all adds up :-)

/Martin

From: Darby Weaver [mailto:darby.weaver_at_gmail.com]
Sent: 24. august 2009 21:36
To: Martin Kiefer
Cc: GS CCIE-Lab
Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Are you sure?

I know of CCIE's in the USA who have settled for 50k, 60k, (three different
CCIE's in those cases for three different employers).

I know of CCIE's who work for $100k - $125k pretty regularly in the USA.

I've heard of others who beat the $135-200k range.

I know of CCIE's on contract working for $125-175.00 per hour.

I recall a CCIE doing some $10k per day.

So to say one should know for sure is a little cavalier.

The truth is the rate is negotiable and depends on experience. That
experience may have little or nothing to do with the job and a lot more to
do with Poker or Blackjack than anything else.

Finally, what are you willing to work for in the market given the conditions
as they are presented. What will you do if you land in a scenario you
cannot live with and must leave?

Is the CCIE able to undertake risks of self-employment? Or does the CCIE
need the job-security and certainty of a Fortune 500 company (which may not
be very certain any way).

I guess it all depends.

I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what one
needs to know in advance.

Network with your peers in-person and on-line.

Get a feel for things and get paid.

Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
frustrating to the max.

Know your market. Market your knowledge.

HINT: Companies seed resumes to feel out the market.

Maybe you should do the same with companies when you are not in the market.

Knowledge is Power.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk> wrote:

The quick answer should be 42.

On the other hand, with 5 years of experiance and a CCIE number, you should
now have the experience to know what kind of salary you think you are worth,
even in Pakistan.

/Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of CC
IE
Sent: 24. august 2009 09:40
To: Cisco certification
Subject: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Hi

Anybody from Pakistan an guide, what is the expected salary for a CCIE with
5 yrs experience.

Regards
Atif

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