Re: Advice regarding CCIE Security

From: Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:44:18 -0400

Well said Steve.

However, while it is nice to be a specialist in security, it seems to me
that mostly everyone is expected to have a decent level of knowledge of
security for day-to-day operations of mostly any network.

Maybe my experience is limited to my work experience, but so far it is
batting a 1000.

Given the network size Omar is responsible for, I'd definately recommend
Firewall and VPN experiences (training or otherwise), however if the goal is
the CCIE, then spending time on the lower order tracks may just be a
diversion from the ultimate goal.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Steve Means <smeans_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> The CCSP touches on most of the subjects needed for the lab, but there is a
> lot of material to get through that doesn't apply. I'd say the cisco CCSP
> curriculum (supplemented with the internet) is a good thing to go through
> if
> you lack baseline knowledge of all the blueprint topics. It can really help
> fill in knowledge gaps.
>
> If you can go through the blueprint and write a short paragraph on each
> bullet
> point and think you can lab them up with some level of competancy you
> probably
> don't need the CCSP.
>
> Either way you go its worth noting that if you plan on moving into a
> security
> role the CCSP and the CCIE aren't 100% of what you need to be effective.
> They
> are very technology focused, but are light on some very important things a
> security person needs to know. Things like policy, laws, host based
> defense,
> up to date exploits, wireless, proper tuning and probably some other things
> I
> don't have off the top of my head.
>
> The point of that is that if you want to do security the CCSP as a start
> and
> then branching out into other security topics might be of more practical
> use
> than getting *REALLY* fast at configuring active/active failover or GET
> VPN.
> ;)
>
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> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com on behalf of Omkar Tambalkar
> Sent: Mon 8/3/2009 3:50 PM
> To: CCIE Lab
> Subject: OT: Advice regarding CCIE Security
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I finished CCIE (R&S) last month and after a couple of weeks of no studying
> I realized that I was so used to the activity of studying for R&S for the
> past 7-8 months that now I need to keep studying or I will while away time
> every day after work doing useless stuff like surfing and watching TV (I am
> single so no kids to amuse everyday). I have decided to succumb to the
> addiction of studying so I am planning to take the challange of CCIE
> Security.
> I have configured ASA5500s for NAT, security access-groups, IPSec
> site-to-site and remote-access VPNs and have configured ACS for TACACS and
> RADIUS authentication; in a nutshell basic security rules and IPSec
> connectivity for a medium sized enterprise. I have no experience with IPS
> and MARS.
> I am torn between 2 approaches for the CCIE Security track:
> Approach 1: Start studying for CCIE Security written (2 months) ---> Pass
> written ----> study 6-7 months for Lab ----> hope to pass the Lab
> Approach 2: Start studying for CCSP (2-3 months) ----> Pass CCSP ---->
> Start
> studying for CCIE Security written (1 month) ---> Pass written ----> study
> 6-7 months for Lab ----> hope to pass the Lab
>
> Any suggestions/advice are more than welcome.
> Omkar Tambalkar
> CCIE #24892
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