Re: "online documentation"

I totally agree Hammer -- Being dependent on the DocCD for your basic core
tasks is definitely fatal as you found. My advice is to try and get to the
point where 85% + of what you need to do for basic technology configuration
is in notepad or with some use of the IOS help. These things need to become
second nature for you. Please let me know if I can help you out moving
forward for your next shot! I wish you the best of luck and success!

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Hammer <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with what you are saying. I just wasn't quite at that point yet and
> finding myself dependent on the doccd in the lab was a fatal (although
> unplanned) mistake. I won't make that mistake again. There's no need rushing
> as I'm unlikely to get a V3 lab at this point. Time to re-focus.
>
> -Hammer
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
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>> I agree with Bryan. I also used the docs twice for the same reason. What I
>> tell our students is that you need to be able to do all your core sections
>> at least pretty much from memory. 80 percent or more should be routine
>> things you have done 1000 times before without the docs
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>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Bryan Bartik
>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>> To: Hammer
>> Cc: CCIE Groupstudy
>> ReplyTo: Bryan Bartik
>> Subject: Re: "online documentation"
>> Sent: Jul 30, 2009 4:27 PM
>>
>> It is possible, but the documentation is where you learn many things to
>> being with. In the lab, I used the DocCD twice. Once for an issue I never
>> heard of and once to just reconfirm what I was doing. The browser was very
>> slow to load and fortunately I did not need to rely on the docs that much.
>> Not everyone may agree, but if you know your stuff, you will minimize your
>> use of the documentaion on the lab.
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>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hammer <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > While at a recent visit to the lab I was very frustrated trying to find
>> > anything on the site. Yes, a few things are out there. But most of it
>> was
>> > either blocked or worthless. I know a lot of folks who preach "mastering
>> > the
>> > navigation of the doccd" but I'm here to tell you that my strategy
>> moving
>> > forward is to know enough not to need it. Possible? I doubt it. There's
>> > always the gotchas. But I will try. You'd be better off with the printed
>> > out
>> > library at your disposal in the room like in the good ol' days.
>> >
>> > -Hammer
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