Re: My Failure Report

Well put sir.

-Hammer

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Ravi,
> NEVER GIVE UP! After 5 years of studying on and off and 3 attempts, I am
> still trying to master the "LAB". I have a little girl coming in OCT, and I
> am killing myself now to give it another shot before she comes.
>
> I will not let the "LAB" beat me, but I also will not let it consume all my
> family time either. The hardest part is managing your time to do both, but
> it is doable.
>
> I also agree that Narbik is the man! Just keep on driving on and those
> numbers will come for you and hopefully me as well.
>
> BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!!
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dont give up I felt the same way. I was a little took back when I seen
> the
> > wording of the exam. It is different than the other vendor wording. One
> > thing I can say is know the doccd in and out. The Aset labs are good to
> get
> > a feel for the wording. Try not to use the doccd unless you have too. Any
> > labs you cant remember syntax do it over and over till you can do it in
> > your
> > sleep. I agree Narbik is a stud!! The CCIE is like a relationship
> sometimes
> > it sucks but you have to hang in there because you have invested so much
> > divorce or quiting is not an option. Just my opinion. Dont weaken
> Cowboy!!!
> >
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ravi Singh <way2ccie_at_googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > HI Group,
> > >
> > > I failed my first attempt at Brussels yesterday and looking at the
> score
> > > report I feel I missed it by just a few points ...I would not say that
> I
> > > was
> > > not prepared .. I was very much prepared technically but what I was not
> > > prepared with was the format the actual lab is given .. So here I
> present
> > > to
> > > you a small report on what are my observations, opinion and
> > recommendations
> > > about the lab ..This is just my opinion of how I felt so it is totally
> > upto
> > > you how you take it..there may be people agreeing to this ..there will
> be
> > > lots of them not agreeing to it ..
> > >
> > > PREPARATION
> > > 1) If you think you will focus on just the core topics and will manage
> > the
> > > non-core ones...you may be proved wrong on your lab day ..I'd suggest
> you
> > > should know every part of the blueprint in-and-out ..I learnt it the
> hard
> > > way ..
> > >
> > > 2) Whichever vendor's workbooks you are doing do it only to understand
> > the
> > > technology and concepts..If you are doing the full scale labs to build
> > your
> > > strategy/speed or whatever for the actual lab, no matter whatever
> > > difficulty
> > > level it is, it won't help much because the actual lab is not formatted
> > > that
> > > way ..In fact if you have completed all the labs that a particular
> vendor
> > > has and you can now complete any lab that vendor gives you, you will
> > > definitely pass an exam that is that vendor's own certification but not
> > > Cisco because you haven't had a taste of the actual lab ..But since
> > > practice
> > > is also one of the keys to passing the lab , the labs may be helpful in
> > > some
> > > sense who knows ..
> > >
> > > OBSERVATION on the LAB
> > > 3) Due to the NDA constraints the only thing I can say is remember
> point
> > 1
> > > above..
> > >
> > > RECOMMENDATION/ADVICE
> > > Since I haven't passed the exam I cannot really recommend anything but
> > for
> > > people who would still like to know ..here is some
> advice/recommendation
> > >
> > > 4) For the learning material I found Narbik's workbooks the best
> because
> > > they explain the technology very clearly and in a very simple and
> > straight
> > > forward manner..I mean if ARP ,for example , can be explained using two
> > > routers why go and build an enterprise network setup for it..Narbik's
> > > bootcamp is also highly recommended because the guy knows the value of
> > your
> > > money..It would have hurt me more if I would have failed the exam after
> > > taking a 5000$ bootcamp and some 1000$ workbooks ..During the
> preparation
> > > for this attempt Narbik had been a great mentor and a very good friend
> > who
> > > had helped me more than he actually could ..Narbik, I am sorry to
> > > disappoint
> > > you on not passing the lab but I am personally very satisfied that your
> > > mentorship had helped me so much in the exam that I was really not
> > worried
> > > about the technical difficulty of the questions being put in..
> > >
> > > NEXT-STEP
> > > 5) I still haven't decided anything on it yet, because all these gone
> > days
> > > and months when I used to study in my room and my 15 month old daughter
> > > came
> > > to me asking me to play with her I would have to turn her away on the
> > > pretext that I would surely spend time with her soon..And now when I
> see
> > > her
> > > face I just don't get the courage of doing the same thing again ..Its
> > just
> > > one day that has passed so once I get over the "loser syndrome" , I
> would
> > > think about it...I am not gonna give up so easily ...
> > >
> > > LAST FEW WORDS
> > > 6) As I mentioned initially there will be loads of people saying .." He
> > is
> > > just a whiner ..had he been technically prepared he would have passed
> > the
> > > lab " but according to my score report I scored a 100% in what everyone
> > > calls the core topics and the OEQs..What took me to doom was two things
> > > a) even though I had a strategy/plan etc. ready for the lab it didn't
> > > actually work because it was not made while doing any labs of that
> > > calibre..
> > > b) Point No. 1 of this email
> > >
> > >
> > > Now for people who have passed the lab,,it's easy to say that failure
> is
> > a
> > > part of the journey or stuff like that..but for people who failed
> nothing
> > > can be more consoling than the CCIE number in the signature..I anyhow
> > > accept
> > > that in my failure it was nobody else's fault than mine so I would now
> > need
> > > to work much harder and rise back from the ashes ;-)
> > >
> > > I forgot to add that this forum is still the best place to be for the
> lab
> > > prep..and I would in anycase would like to thank people who are a
> member
> > of
> > > this forum ..Keep up the good work guys
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Ravi
> > >
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