Re: One Misconception about lab

I agree with Joseph and Anthony.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:

> For the many "lurkers" of GroupStudy that might not have weighed in on this
> debate, but that are now thoroughly confused, please remember this:
>
> There are many, many different and perfectly valid approaches to passing
> the CCIE Lab Exam from an overall lab exam strategy perspective.
>
> Brian McGahan and I both passed Route/Switch, but I know for a fact we did
> many things differently from a strategy perspective.
>
> Find your own personal strategy that works best for you personally. You
> discover this through learning and practice.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Ramiro Garza wrote:
>
> Do not reload any of the routers/switches/etc. unless it is absolutely
>> necessary!!!. If you have to reload, make sure you make a backup of your
>> config and make sure you know how to skip the startup-config from rommon
>> in
>> case the router starts to crash during bootup, which happens usually due
>> to
>> a corrupted startup. In which case, the backup that you made would come in
>> handy ;)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ramiro G.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Tony Blanco <blancoj17_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Believe it or not....you always want to reload the routers in order to
>>> make
>>> sure that all your routes are taking the proper path, reloading the
>>> routers
>>> clears many issues with frame-relay preconfiguration....particular for
>>> OSPF
>>> routing related issues.....that is why reloading the router at the
>>> beginning
>>> and then at end is a healthy task to perform....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Salah ElShekeil <salah.elshekeil_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>;
>>> Bryan
>>> Bartik <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>; Cisco certification <
>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>;
>>> Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>; Dennis Worth <
>>> dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Persio Pucci <
>>> persio_at_gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:59:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>
>>> I reloaded only one router, at the beginning, I guess no need to reload
>>> the
>>> rack if u r sure that ur configuration is correct :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just me 2 cents :D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SE
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> One issue about removing the encapsulation and re-entering it back is
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> if the interface was configured with bunch of frame-relay map
>>>> statements,
>>>> and you removed the encapsulation, it will also removes the frame-relay
>>>>
>>> map
>>>
>>>> statements so if you are planning to do that, make sure you write down
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> frame-relay map statements so you can reconfigure them back.
>>>>
>>>> Just a tip
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:43 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone. This is what GS is for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Cisco certification
>>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Darby Weaver <
>>>>>
>>>> ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>,
>>>>
>>>>> Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>,
>>>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com, Persio Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 07/23/2009 09:41
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It does nothing for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:28 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>>>>> Good morning Dennis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification. I guess I was a little confused on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles From: Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>
>>>> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Cisco certification <
>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>, Narbik
>>>>> Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
>>>>> Persio
>>>>> Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com> Date: 07/23/2009 09:24
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I am aware of, no arp frame-relay should be removed from the
>>>>> ios,
>>>>> as frame-relay has no concept of arp at all. Please correct me if I am
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also make sure if you decide to change encapsulations on an interface
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>
>>>> copy the current config on that interface or you will be retyping
>>>>> everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:01 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
>>>>> wrote: Guys, I'm a little confused on this. For every single lab
>>>>>
>>>> out
>>>>
>>>>> there regardless of the provider, you learn to use "no frame inv" to
>>>>> prevent the interface or DLCI from answering any requests that it
>>>>> receives. I understand how this works and I understand why this
>>>>>
>>>> command
>>>
>>>> alone can meet any requirements for "not using any dynamic
>>>>>
>>>> mappings".
>>>
>>>> The
>>>>> documentation on CCO is vague and Internet opinions are varied on
>>>>>
>>>> "no
>>>
>>>> arp
>>>>> frame-". I was under the impression that this command prevented the
>>>>> router from initiating requests. I always use both as a sanity check
>>>>> even
>>>>> though I'm completely aware the second is not technically necessary.
>>>>>
>>>> It's
>>>>
>>>>> just cleaner to me. Am I totally mistaken? Is "no arp frame-" a
>>>>>
>>>> legacy
>>>
>>>> or
>>>>> depreciated command? Or do I understand it correctly? Please don't
>>>>>
>>>> tell
>>>>
>>>>> me I'm missing a fundamental here.... Charles From:
>>>>> Anthony
>>>>> Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com> To: Narbik Kocharians <
>>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com> Cc: Darby Weaver <
>>>>>
>>>> ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
>>>
>>>> ,
>>>>> Bryan Bartik <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com,
>>>>> Persio Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification <
>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Date: 07/23/2009 08:39 Subject:
>>>>>
>>>> Re:
>>>>
>>>>> One Misconception about lab LOL that will fix it. does nothing
>>>>>
>>>> arp
>>>>
>>>>> frame On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
>>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote: > One thing you are missing is the "no arp
>>>>> frame" that you have in your > configuration. > > On Wed, Jul 22,
>>>>>
>>>> 2009
>>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>> 8:51 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Kewl
>>>>>
>>>> -
>>>
>>>> Like
>>>>> I said as long as you are comfortable and you know why you > are >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> doing it. Sounds like you did and you got the digits to prove it. >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com> > > wrote: > > > > > For a reason that
>>>>> shall
>>>>> remain
>>>>> undisclosed, I needed to reboot one of > my > > > routers with
>>>>>
>>>> about
>>>
>>>> 20
>>>>
>>>>> minutes left. Was I nervous? Of course not... ;-)
>>>>>
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