Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect

I have respect for those out there that used "traditional" training to pass their written exams. It not only benefits you as a person, but ensures the value of our great certification we all work so hard to achieve.

Craig

--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect
> To: "Darby Weaver" <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 3:46 PM
> The CCIE written has gone to bits.
> This is why it's got harder. I recall one CCIE telling me
> years ago that not using dumps to pass it was simply
> throwing money at Cisco. He recertified with dumps. I can't
> remember his name. He offered to help. I declined. I gave my
> money to Cisco and passed *eventually* thanks to good old
> honest sweat.
>
> It is asked for in job ads, possibly by the gullible HR
> drone or for some jobs that need a CCIE on board pretty
> quickly. It is a decent metric of ability in itself *if* the
> passer was honest in achieving it because it is not an easy
> test to pass if one is clean. You either have to have done
> resits multiple times to absolutely sail it, or be rainman,
> or be off the bellcurve, or be a bit lucky on the day. Not
> an easy test.
>
> I will be taking the written sometime soon. I expect to
> have a fun time in the testing centre. Probably sat next to
> someone who will clear it in less than 25 minutes with 900+
> but go figure ;)
>
> Now maybe he's a genius, but remember Orson Welles said
> 'you can fit the world's geniuses into an elevator' when he
> was described as one and Mr Welles was quite a guy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darby Weaver" <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect
>
>
> > Agreed no war.
> >
> > However go to your favorite job search site and take a
> look at how many jobs
> > are requesting or will accept the CCIE Written as a
> qualifying metric for
> > the job.
> >
> > Now if this number is the same or greater than for a
> CCIE. The exam does
> > have a little more merit than a CCENT or CCNA.
> >
> > Here's some examples (only 11 met the search
> criteria):
> >
> > http://jobsearch.monster.com/Search.aspx?brd=1&q=%22ccie%20written%22&cy=us&lid=316&re=130
> >
> > However many jobs that may require a CCNP or CCIE,
> seem to respect a CCIE
> > Written as an example of a certain level of skill when
> accompanied by a
> > certain amount of OJT.
> >
> > So much to the effect that headhunters that need an
> actual CCIE, actually
> > specify this these days in the adverts.
> >
> > So I wouldn't say the CCIE Written is without merit
> and if honestly earned
> > it has a lot challenges that are of the exact caliber
> experienced in the
> > CCIE Lab. Except a person 100 questions in a lot
> less time.
> >
> > Now since many people get by this exam as fast as
> possible - one's results
> > may vary. However, it is a challenging exam and
> is like the OEQ's in terms
> > of the average level of difficulty enountered... on
> average.
> >
> > So I still think it has something of a
> placeholder. And besides it renews a
> > lot of other certs too.
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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