You are correct on the training part. We are already a large MPLS shop. I
guess I'm just not asking the question right. It seems to me that the R&S
and SP are becoming more and more similar. I was curious if anyone else saw
it the same way.
Charles
From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
To: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Date: 07/22/2009 19:57
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
No marketing here Charles. I hate MPLS.
Work of the devil. As if our jobs were not hard enough.
But it 'will' happen. Your boss will make sure of that and he will be
having
an nice time with his family while you scratch your head about making it
all
work!
And no, you wont get any training :)
G'night!
----- Original Message -----
From: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
> Good night marketing department!!!!!!
>
> I know it's coming. But it's a long way away for a lot of people. And
> again, what separates the certs now?
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>
> To: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>
>
> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "Narbik Kocharians"
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>
> Date: 07/22/2009 19:50
>
> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>
>
>
>
>
>
> MPLS is coming. Its the cloud. MPLS is the detail. But the 'managers'
love
> the cloud and they run companies and make recommendations to look good.
> Savings. It will happen soon. To everyone. The virtual data centre.
>
> Off to bed now. It's late in Great Britain.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com>
> To: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> Cc: "CCIE Groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; "Gary Duncanson"
> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>; "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>;
> <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:45 AM
> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>
>
>> Guys,
>> I kind of agree and kind of disagree. You said it in the thread.
>> "Service Provider". There are plenty of R&S worlds out there that aren't
>> buried in MPLS or DMVPN or even voice for that matter. So, what will
>> differentiate the R&S from the SP cert? More MPLS? I know my viewpoint
> may
>> seem a bit naive but not everyone lives in a big city or works in a big
>> datacenter. Thoughts?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>>
>> To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>, "Narbik
>> Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> Cc: "CCIE Groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>
>> Date: 07/22/2009 19:38
>>
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed. My enterprise company network at my job before last had 200 WAN
>> sites on MPLS through Sprint worldwide...it is not just for SP
>> anymore...of
>> course we only had RO access on the CE routers but don't you just hate
> not
>> knowing "how it ticks" ?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:19:17
>> To: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>> It's kind of arrived really. My latest contract is service provider.
>> Plenty
>> MPLS going on there. But the enterprises are using it now even if it's
> for
>> 'Cloud Computing'.
>>
>> Good old Hutnik and Saterlee. Their book had a couple of examples in
> there
>> back in 2001. My IOS wouldn't run it.
>>
>> Academic at the time.
>>
>> Not now. You better know how to do this stuff. After all a CCIE can do
>> anything right? :)
>>
>> You can be sure the CCNP or even CCNA working in the SP environment
> knows
>> the score so time to cover this stuff ;)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Narbik Kocharians
>> To: netwkengr_at_gmail.com
>> Cc: Gary Duncanson ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>> Well....
>> No matter where you go the chances are that you will see MPLS, so if
you
>> know MPLS you are a better and more knowledgeable person.
>> Remember when we had 2 switches? people did not focus on switching that
>> much, now that we have 4 switches, everyone is focusing on switching. I
>> think
>> as they add more stuff to the CCIE R&S, we are going to see a better
>> caliber
>> of CCIEs.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM, <netwkengr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't why do you say that ?
>>
>>
>>
>> E
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:54:18
>> To: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>> How can you say that? You haven't seen it yet Narbik.
>> But I think I 'know' what you mean.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gary
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Narbik Kocharians
>> To: Gary Duncanson
>> Cc: Abi ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>> I respect that, v4 is much better than v3.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Gary Duncanson
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A little late here to get into those details Abi, Im relaxing but
>> keep
>> in
>> touch
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abi" <ieaspirant_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:14 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>>
>> what did one GP say to the other ?
>> count me in & lets suffer together
>> hahaha...
>>
>> who let the dogs out ?..woof....woof...woof.....sorry, meant to
>> say
>> Guinea Pigs (GP), but was'nt sure what sound they
>> make.....squeak....squeak....(sounds more like the poor GPs
being
>> squashed....)
>>
>> Let's get to work....:
>>
>> 1) I was trying to figure-out the scope of 'what-else' &
>> 'how-different' things are going to be ?
>> (Yes, I did go thru the limited res on the web)
>>
>> 1a) H/W changes --what do these 1841's mean to us ? (in terms
> of
>> difference)
>>
>> 2) Which portions get carried over from 3.0 ?
>>
>> That's it from me.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Abi
>> (The barking Guinea Pigs).....how does that sound ?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Gary
>>
>> Duncanson<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok lets keep in touch. These studygroups amount to nothing on
>> here.
>> Just
>> ping me each week and see what happens.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <netwkengr_at_gmail.com>
>> To: "Divin Mathew John" <divinjohn_at_gmail.com>; "Gary
Duncanson"
>> <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>>
>> Mi3
>>
>> E
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Divin Mathew John <divinjohn_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:11:23
>> To: Gary Duncanson<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
>> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
>>
>>
>> V4 for me too :D
>>
>> Sent from Bangalore, KA, India
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary Duncanson <
>> gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> n't think we will hit 30000 this year s
>>
>>
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