Guys,
I kind of agree and kind of disagree. You said it in the thread.
"Service Provider". There are plenty of R&S worlds out there that aren't
buried in MPLS or DMVPN or even voice for that matter. So, what will
differentiate the R&S from the SP cert? More MPLS? I know my viewpoint may
seem a bit naive but not everyone lives in a big city or works in a big
datacenter. Thoughts?
Charles
From: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>, "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "CCIE Groupstudy" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Date: 07/22/2009 19:38
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
Agreed. My enterprise company network at my job before last had 200 WAN
sites on MPLS through Sprint worldwide...it is not just for SP anymore...of
course we only had RO access on the CE routers but don't you just hate not
knowing "how it ticks" ?
Regards,
Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Cell: +1.586.212.6107
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:19:17
To: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
It's kind of arrived really. My latest contract is service provider. Plenty
MPLS going on there. But the enterprises are using it now even if it's for
'Cloud Computing'.
Good old Hutnik and Saterlee. Their book had a couple of examples in there
back in 2001. My IOS wouldn't run it.
Academic at the time.
Not now. You better know how to do this stuff. After all a CCIE can do
anything right? :)
You can be sure the CCNP or even CCNA working in the SP environment knows
the score so time to cover this stuff ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Narbik Kocharians
To: netwkengr_at_gmail.com
Cc: Gary Duncanson ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
Well....
No matter where you go the chances are that you will see MPLS, so if you
know MPLS you are a better and more knowledgeable person.
Remember when we had 2 switches? people did not focus on switching that
much, now that we have 4 switches, everyone is focusing on switching. I
think
as they add more stuff to the CCIE R&S, we are going to see a better
caliber
of CCIEs.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM, <netwkengr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
I don't why do you say that ?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:54:18
To: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
How can you say that? You haven't seen it yet Narbik.
But I think I 'know' what you mean.
Regards
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Narbik Kocharians
To: Gary Duncanson
Cc: Abi ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
I respect that, v4 is much better than v3.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Gary Duncanson
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
A little late here to get into those details Abi, Im relaxing but
keep
in
touch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Abi" <ieaspirant_at_gmail.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
what did one GP say to the other ?
count me in & lets suffer together
hahaha...
who let the dogs out ?..woof....woof...woof.....sorry, meant to
say
Guinea Pigs (GP), but was'nt sure what sound they
make.....squeak....squeak....(sounds more like the poor GPs being
squashed....)
Let's get to work....:
1) I was trying to figure-out the scope of 'what-else' &
'how-different' things are going to be ?
(Yes, I did go thru the limited res on the web)
1a) H/W changes --what do these 1841's mean to us ? (in terms of
difference)
2) Which portions get carried over from 3.0 ?
That's it from me.
Best,
-Abi
(The barking Guinea Pigs).....how does that sound ?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Gary
Duncanson<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
Ok lets keep in touch. These studygroups amount to nothing on
here.
Just
ping me each week and see what happens.
----- Original Message ----- From: <netwkengr_at_gmail.com>
To: "Divin Mathew John" <divinjohn_at_gmail.com>; "Gary Duncanson"
<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
Mi3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Divin Mathew John <divinjohn_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:11:23
To: Gary Duncanson<gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: OT V4 Guinea Pigs
V4 for me too :D
Sent from Bangalore, KA, India
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary Duncanson <
gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
n't think we will hit 30000 this year s
Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
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