Re: One Misconception about lab

To be honest..in the field

It depends on what is dependant on the router. If you are doing a minor BGP
advertisement then I would go soft, particularly if you have multiple
peerings.

If your box is involved in real time FX trades. Leave well alone in terms of
reboots.

But other than that, do some recon prior to the change and plan to do it if
acceptable. Just make sure you let the NOC know in advance when the alerts
go off.

As for the CCIE lab itself. Yes reload of course. If it cant survive that
something is wrong and you better go fix it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
To: "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
Cc: "Alex H. Ryu" <r.hyunseog_at_ieee.org>; "lalit gupta"
<lalit.tech_at_gmail.com>; "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab

>I apply a lot of configuration on production gear as do many of us.
>
> hmm...
>
> How many times do we really have to reboot our gear?
>
> It's makes us feel better but unless there is an issue...
>
> Now I do know people that consider "rebooting" a crucial part of their own
> troubleshooting efforts... Kinda goes like this...
>
> "Well I rebooted it 3 times and it still doesn't work..."
>
> Of course that is none of us here.
>
> The question you should really be asking yourself is what are you trying
> to
> accomplish by rebooting?
>
> Is it an issue with OSPF DR election or what if you are restricted from
> modifying the router-id for example...
>
> What are you expecting to change?
>
> I'll agree a config ought to survive a reboot. No argument there.
>
> But the idea of whether or not proctors will reboot the routers has long
> since been answered and the "official" answer is "No, they do not" - per
> various presentations by the proctors themselves.
>
> Anyone else is guessing or creating more urban legends.
>
> Always better to be safe than sorry of course, but hey it's your lunch do
> what you feel comfortable with.
>
> Ever heard people say the proctor must have been playing with a person's
> rack over lunch...?
>
> I wonder if they rebooted too?
>
> Hey everyone saves right?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Joe Astorino
> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> Agreed with Alex and Persio!
>>
>> 2009/7/22 Alex H. Ryu <r.hyunseog_at_ieee.org>
>>
>> > It is just the matter with "just in case".
>> > Can you tolerate the chance to blow up when Proctor reload the routers,
>> > and configuration isn't working ?
>> > That's up to you.
>> > If I were you, I will try to reload the routers, and test it again.
>> > It really depends on each proctor's preference.
>> > Some may do reload before grading.
>> > Some may not.
>> >
>> > If you have strong confidence, you can go ahead.
>> >
>> > But in real life, I saw some consultant tested the router
>> > configuration,
>> > and didn't save the configuration before their departure.
>> > As a result, customer called in after power outage to blame on us for
>> > not having "default" route programmed in their CPE.
>> >
>> > If you trust your configuration without final reload and test, then it
>> > turns out that proctor reload it and it fails.
>> > It is your risk.
>> > But don't recommend it to everybody as "must".
>> >
>> > Technically you don't have to test anything after you program your
>> > routers from the lab.
>> > Then why do you test every scenario/questions after you program it?
>> > Same thing goes to "reload/test".
>> > It is one more thorough test for your job.
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> > lalit gupta wrote:
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > I recently got to know from one of the proctor that they really dont
>> > reload
>> > > the router before grading, so he said if someone teaches or suggests
>> you
>> > to
>> > > do it in lab before leaving or in the middle of exam to make sure
>> things
>> > are
>> > > working etc etc etc....
>> > >
>> > > dont do it.
>> > >
>> > > if required yes pls do it but as a rumor proctor does it before
>> > > grading
>> > is
>> > > complete crap.. so dont waste time.
>> > >
>> > > HTH
>> > > lalit
>> > >
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