Re: CCIE Certification - OT

Hi.

But then again, wich company would allow you to have a CCO login not
associating any certs and still require all the benefits from the company
privileges and having another CCO for "private" purpose only holding all
your certs?

Seems to me that "some" wants all the benefits but won't give anything back.

I think I would be out of job quite fast if I let my company pay for my CCIE
and then not letting them use it for their partner status...

best regards
Martin Kiefer

Scott Morris writes:

> Because by granting your CCO login the "partner access" that you so
> desire, your agreement is implied that other things (certifications)
> associated with your CCO ID will also be tagged to that company (e.g.
> two way street).
>
> So have you let your CCNA, CCNP, specialist certs or anything else be
> used by your company? You don't get to pick and choose which things go
> where!
>
> You'd neeed two IDs. One to hold your certifications (no special
> access on CCO) and the other to be associated to your partner (getting
> the partner access on CCO).
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
> swm_at_emanon.com
>
>
> Knowledge is power.
>
> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
>
>
> George Roman wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I never associated my number with anyone but what you guys say here is more
>> then a horror movie.
>> I always thought that CCIE number association is a matter of free will,
>> something that you have to give your approval in order for it to happen.
>> Why can't you write an email to cisco and ask them to deassociate you number
>> ? Why do you need to change CCO ??
>>
>> Best regards,
>> George
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Victor <cisco.all.stuff_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thank you very much Guys for your valuable advise.
>>>
>>> Brgds..... Victor
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/7/09, Hoogen <hoogen82_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is definitely worth it if your company is troubling you so much.
>>>>
>>> Once
>>>
>>>> you leave the company, you can ask Cisco to merge your two id's.
>>>>
>>>> -Hoogen
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In that case, create a new cco.
>>>>> Take the written again using the new cco.(sorry, but worth it).
>>>>> Take the lab with your new cco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current company can continue to use the old. You can use the new
>>>>>
>>> towards
>>>
>>>>> the next company.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Victor <cisco.all.stuff_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:08:29
>>>>> To: <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification<
>>>>>
>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE Certification - OT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Ron, that's the problem I currently hold CCNP, CCIP, CCDP and CSE
>>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>> least the last one counts for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/7/09, ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. Make sure that your current company isn't already using your
>>>>>>
>>>>> current
>>>>>
>>>>>> certs for their benefit. If they are, you're stuck as your cco is
>>>>>>
>>>>> already
>>>>>
>>>>>> tied to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't have any current certs, then even better as they won't
>>>>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> need to use your cco!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rob Clav <robclav_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:17:41
>>>>>> To: Victor<cisco.all.stuff_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE Certification - OT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>> you can't do it without loose your priviledge level. Because some of
>>>>>>
>>>>> them
>>>>>
>>>>>> are related to your company not to your profile.
>>>>>> But also you need to be aware if you finally do it, due to they will
>>>>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>>>> notified by Cisco!! because they probably are using your cert for
>>>>>>
>>> their
>>>
>>>>>> profit. I had suffered something similar at my last company but
>>>>>>
>>> related
>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> time for study.
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Robclav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/7/7 Victor <cisco.all.stuff_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry about this OT message but I would like to hear your opinion on
>>>>>>>
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> work for a Cisco Global Partner and I working in my CCIE
>>>>>>>
>>> certification
>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> about 2 years, I will attempt for the lab on next August. My company
>>>>>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> been cooperative with me regarding the certifcation, in fact they do
>>>>>>> everything to discourage your purposes to get CCIE certified, even
>>>>>>>
>>>>> they
>>>>>
>>>>>>> announced no payment raise. There are 3 more guys in the same
>>>>>>>
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've payed for everything, books, on line labs, training, exam fees,
>>>>>>>
>>>>> etc,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> a lot of money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard that in case I get certified my ID will be locked to my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> company
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for 1 year, so they will benefit from my efforts for free and in
>>>>>>> consequences my possibilities for a new job will be limited.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I want to disassociate my Cisco ID from the company in advance
>>>>>>>
>>> even
>>>
>>>>>>> taking the risk of not passing and lose my priviledged access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone can tell me how to do that??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Johan Victor
>>>>>>>
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